Nikolay Nikolov via fpc-other said on Fri, 28 Apr 2023 21:39:04 +0300
>Maybe #fpc-alt will become a better unofficial IRC channel? So far, >I've joined the #fpc-alt channel (without leaving #fpc), to support an >alternative channel as well, but I'm not very impressed, not only due >to the lack of people (only 3 people, including me), but also due to >the fact that there's not even a topic. Today at about 7PM New York time, prompted by a suggestion on ##fpc-alt, I added the following /topic to #fpc-alt: =============================================== Topic for #fpc-alt is: Ontopic list for Free Pascal. Offtopic channel is ##fpc-alt. Rules: Treat your fellow channel inhabitants like you'd like to be treated. =============================================== I also created a similar /topic for ##fpc-alt , which is the offtopic FPC channel. >I know growing a channel takes >time, Yes. Also, these are the first two IRC channels I've ever managed. I've managed mailing lists, but never IRC channels. So I have a lot to learn. My first choice would be for somebody like you or Tomas to be in charge of #fpc. My second choice would be for somebody like you or Tomas to take over #fpc-alt. The only reason I registered and run #fpc-alt is because people who are genuinely using or thinking about using FreePascal need a place they can listen, ask or help without fear of banning. I have lots of ambitions, but believe me, being king of an IRC channel isn't one of them. :-) [snip] > maybe #fpc-alt will grow a large >community as well, and will allow a more free and welcoming to >newcomers environment. I hope so, and I hope that later somebody more invested in FreePascal will take over #fpc-alt. > >And of course, there's also #lazarus, where moderation was taken up by >giantm (a Lazarus developer). Even though #lazarus has only about 20 people, they managed to give me some help on sound issues. > >So, plenty of alternative places to talk, if you're not happy about >#fpc. I wouldn't call it "plenty", because there are a few hundred on #fpc, and it's my opinion that a lot of them would be more forthcoming with help if they weren't worried about the possibility of being censured for giving the help using the wrong phrases. [snip] >Technically speaking, she didn't "hijack" the channel. She is the >channel owner, by virtue of being the first person to register it on >this IRC network. Speaking *only* of #fpc and not #pascal, my understanding of the events is: 1) Freenode's #fpc was an official FreePascal venue. 2) Freenode went bad. 3) Joanna registered #fpc on before anyone else. 4) Joanna banned 42 people and, in my informed opinion, made the rules all about her personal preferences. Smarter people than I could argue whether this constitutes "hijacking", but her taking channel name #fpc, a channel that used to be an official project channel, has caused, is continuing to cause, and will continue to cause in the future serious confusion. So I say to everyone, whether you're banned on #fpc or not, join us on #fpc-alt, and if you want, the offtopic ##fpc-alt. I'm not asking you to stop using #fpc, I'm just saying get on both and see which you like better. May the better channel win. SteveT Steve Litt Autumn 2022 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times http://www.troubleshooters.com/bookstore/thrive.htm _______________________________________________ fpc-other maillist - fpc-other@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-other
