On 2023-05-27 14:05, HSN via fpc-other wrote:
Joanna,
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One of the ways that they can do this is by helping other users in
real-time chat. I suspect that many people who use fpc/Lazarus are
either unaware of irc real-time chat, have been chased away by people
sabotaging it or have been discouraged from trying it by people who
want this project to fail.
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I'm sorry to say that, but your continuing attempts to blame external
enemies for limited/declining IRC channel popularity rather than
accepting or at least just considering repeated arguments clearly
showing other reasons won't change anything. See e.g. the Wikipedia
article about IRC showing clear trends (unrelated to FPC). The reasons
of these general trends should be very understandable for people with
good analytical skills (as expected for most developers).
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People using project are more likely listen to the advice of
developers that announce where the chat channel is than someone whom
they don’t know promoting a channel. I want to let you know that
Nickolay is both a Lazarus developer and the owner of #fpc on Libera
irc. Nicolay is well known in this community. Everyone who
appreciates the work that he does should help support his channel
whenever they have a chance and hopefully chat with him when he is
online. There is also the #fpc-dev channel on Libera to meet at.
Nikolay and Charlie, two FPC core team members at least occasionally
joining IRC, both explicitly confirmed that their IRC availability had
been limited, which was one of the reasons why the FPC core team decided
that no IRC channel should be considered as official. Both forums and
mailing lists provide higher chances to get response from one of the FPC
core team members in case of complex issues where support of other FPC
users and developers may not be sufficient. There are no guarantees to
get answer for just any question for any of the channels (it's a hobby
project and nobody gets paid for support), but the probability is clear
(chances for finding a solution is further improved by possibility to
search through previous discussions in the forum or the mailing list
archive). Obviously, anybody can still use whatever channel meeting
their needs and preferences and people providing support in whatever
channel rather than just seeking for help with their own issues are very
welcome in any case regardless from the used channel, but that doesn't
change the overall situation.
Tomas
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