The place where I usually run into this in when tables need to occur at the top of a page. Hanging them off the end of the previous pages last paragraph and overriding the table setting in the middle of the right side of the Table Designer to Start: Top of Page usually give me what I want. Of course this would not work for a table that starts out a file. Removing overrides after making changes to a file means the force to stop of page can be removed after addition/deletion edits that might affect where the table ends up on the page.
Craig Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 17:38:05 -0400 From: srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com To: Framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Insets and Tables: container paragraphs with no additional spacing Offline exchanges with other subscribers to this list prompted me to do an experiment, and it was a success, so I'll share it. If you prefer to have your tables in dedicated paragraphs, you run into the problem of unwanted space above the table caused by the otherwise empty paragraph. Some people minimize the extra space by creating a tag with 2-pt font and no space above or below, but that makes the paragraph hard to see, and does still add the extra 2 points. With text insets, you end up with a similar problem of unwanted space below the inset, due to the tag of the containing paragraph. I have long used a trick to place a table in its own paragraph so that the top of the table aligns with the top of the container paragraph – zero extra space above the table, in other words. I've learned that the same trick can be applied to text insets. For tables, create a pgf tag, e.g., TableAnchor: Font Size: 12 pt Color: (something other than black, so it stands out) Spacing Below Pgf: –12.0 pt (negative 12 points) and change all your Table tags to have Spacing Above: –12.0 pt Insert a blank paragraph where you want the table to start and tag it TableAnchor. Insert a table in that paragraph. The top of the table will be even with the top of the TableAnchor paragraph. For insets (harder to maintain, depending on inset content), create a pgf tag in the container document, e.g., InsetAnchor: Font Size: 12 pt Color: (something other than black) Spacing Above Pgf: –12.0 pt In the inset source document, create a variant tag based on the last paragraph of the inset (e.g., BodyInsetLast as a variant of Body): Spacing Below Pgf: –12.0 pt (negative 12 points) Apply that tag to the last paragraph of the inset. In the container document, create a new empty paragraph where you want the inset to go. Tag the paragraph InsetAnchor. In that paragraph, type a non-breaking space (to overcome the bug that reformats the paragraph on updating the inset). Place your cursor just before the non-breaking space and import the inset. For both these methods, if you want to move your cursor into the containing paragraph after the table or inset is in place, use the arrow keys -- the mouse pointer will only select the table or inset, because that's the uppermost "layer." -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com _______________________________________________ You are currently subscribed to framers as craig...@hotmail.com. Send list messages to firstname.lastname@example.org. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/craigede%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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