The place where I usually run into this in when tables need to occur at the top 
of a page. Hanging them off the end of the previous pages last paragraph and 
overriding the table setting in the middle of the right side of the Table 
Designer to Start: Top of Page usually give me what I want. Of course this 
would not work for a table that starts out a file. Removing overrides after 
making changes to a file means the force to stop of page can be removed after 
addition/deletion edits that might affect where the table ends up on the page.

Craig

Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 17:38:05 -0400
From: srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com
To: Framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Insets and Tables: container paragraphs with no additional spacing


  

    
  
  
    Offline exchanges with other subscribers to this
      list prompted me to do an experiment, and it was a success, so
      I'll share it.

      

      If you prefer to have your tables in dedicated paragraphs, you run
      into the problem of unwanted space above the table caused by the
      otherwise empty paragraph. Some people minimize the extra space by
      creating a tag with 2-pt font and no space above or below, but
      that makes the paragraph hard to see, and does still add the extra
      2 points. With text insets, you end up with a similar problem of
      unwanted space below the inset, due to the tag of the containing
      paragraph.

      

      I have long used a trick to place a table in its own paragraph so
      that the top of the table aligns with the top of the container
      paragraph – zero
      extra space above the table, in other words. I've learned that the
      same trick can be applied to text insets.

      

      For tables, create a pgf tag, e.g., TableAnchor:

      Font Size: 12 pt

      Color: (something other than black, so it stands out)

      Spacing Below Pgf: –12.0 pt (negative 12 points)

      

      and change all your Table tags to have
      Spacing Above: –12.0 pt

        

      Insert a blank paragraph where you want the table to start
      and tag it TableAnchor.

      Insert a table in that paragraph. 

      The top of the table will be even with the top of the TableAnchor
      paragraph.

      

      For insets (harder to maintain, depending on inset content),
      create a pgf tag in the container document, e.g., InsetAnchor:

    Font Size: 12 pt

        Color: (something other than black)

        Spacing Above Pgf: –12.0 pt

      

      In the inset source document, create a variant tag based on the
      last paragraph of the inset (e.g., BodyInsetLast as a variant of
      Body):

    Spacing Below Pgf: –12.0 pt
        (negative 12 points)

        Apply that tag to the last paragraph of the inset.

        

        In the container document, create a new empty paragraph where
        you want the inset to go. 

        Tag the paragraph InsetAnchor.

      In that paragraph,
        type a non-breaking space (to overcome the bug that reformats
        the paragraph on updating the inset).

        Place your cursor just before the non-breaking space and import
        the inset.

        

        For both these methods, if you want to move your cursor into the
        containing paragraph after the table or inset is in place, use
        the arrow keys -- the mouse pointer will only select the table
        or inset, because that's the uppermost "layer."

      
    -- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com

  


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