This pretty much sums up what I saw with some testing too, but I did not
go to the level of detail that you have done here!

I think that the constant "refresh" of information inside the Para and
Char Designer boxes is what causes the slowdown.

Thanks for the detailed information, Mike!


-----Original Message-----
[mailto:framers-bounces at] On Behalf Of Mike Wickham
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 11:52 AM
To: Avraham Makeler; framers at
Subject: Re: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

I have the same slow cursor speed with FrameMaker 8.0p277 on Windows XP
Pro and on Vista.

1. If the Paragraph Designer is the only palette open, it takes 8
seconds to scroll across a 50-character column using the right-arrow

2. If the Character Designer is the only palette open, it takes 4
seconds to scroll.

3. If any of the other palettes are open alone, it takes only 2-seconds
to scroll, which is about what I expect.

Opening palettes in combination slows the scroll rate further. There are
six palettes that I like to have open: the Paragraph Designer, Character
Designer, and Table Designer, and  the Paragraph Catalog, Character
Catalog, and Tool palette. I've discovered that two of these are causing
the issue. Here are some notes:

1. If all six palettes are open, it takes about 13 seconds to scroll
across a 50-character column by holding down the right arrow key. Yikes!
Too slow!

2. If I then close the Paragraph Designer, it only takes about 5 seconds
to scroll across the column.

3. If I also close the Character Designer, it drops to around 2 seconds.
That's about as it should be.

4. Closing any or all of the remaining palettes also results in a
2-second normal scroll rate.

So the slowness problem appears to be linked to having  the Paragraph
Designer and Character Designer palettes. Hopefully, this issue will be
fixed with FrameMaker 9. Yes, I'm an optimist. :)

Mike Wickham

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Avraham Makeler" <>
To: <framers at>
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 6:30 AM
Subject: Re: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

I have demo-ed to myself that it is the Para Designer dial box that
my editing speed. It's repeatable on my machine.
Every computer architecture is different. So I just found a weak spot in
arch. as compared to some other machine.


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