Now tell us how you really feel. Just kidding. I wouldn't be surprised if what you say is true. I dropped out long ago to grow my own veges in the country.
Myron Ort On Aug 29, 2011, at 1:44 PM, Aaron F. Ross wrote: > The avant-garde film scene in this town has > really degenerated in the last ten years. I took > a break for a while to work on other things, and > when I came back I found that the scene I knew > and loved had fallen on hard times. > > I can't recommend San Francisco as a place to > find new and exciting avant-garde motion picture > events. The venues Steve mentioned seem to be > stuck in the 60's. I have nothing against > structuralism, etc. per se, but frankly I see a > lack of imagination and an inability to embrace > new methods. This is an ill omen. > > Don't come here expecting a vibrant community. > It's stodgy, eccentric, self-absorbed, insular, > and profoundly unimaginative. The old guard have > no mojo left in them, and the young people are > too busy fluffing their Burning Man costumes to do anything > revolutionary. > > Aaron > > > > > > At 8/29/2011, you wrote: >> Several exhibition venues in the San Francisco >> Bay Area, all of which will be presented >> substantial programs of what could be considered >> avant-garde/experimental/underground works in >> the coming months (presented alphabetically): >> >> Artists' Television Access (ATA): www.atasite.org >> Canyon Cinema: www.canyoncinema.com >> Oddball Films: www.oddballfilm.com >> Other Cinema (at ATA): www.othercinema.com >> San Francisco Cinematheque: www.sfcinematheque.org >> There is also a new venue in west Oakland called >> "Black Hole" which (I believe) promotes itself >> primarily via Facebook. Best just to go there >> (Facebook that is, assuming if you are part of >> the Facebook hive mind) and search for them. >> >> And please... >> Before anyone says anything... >> I am the Artistic Director of Cinematheque. I am >> a filmmaker member (and once employee and board >> member—”but not currently) of Canyon Cinema. I >> am a long-time volunteer with Other Cinema/ATA. >> I even worked for Oddball for a short time years ago. >> Call this disclosure. >> This collation of publicly-accessible >> information is posted out of a sense of love for >> this local film scene and for this community, >> enthusiam for the coming season and as an act of >> generosity towards a newcomer. Beyond this I >> make no claims to speak for, advocate for, or >> argue the merits (or shortcomings) of any of the >> above venues (other than Cinematheque). OK? I >> also apologize to any venues I may have left >> out. No venue was omitted from my list due to >> personal (or institutional) ill will; if there >> have been any omissions it is only due to my personal ignorance. >> >> Peace out, >> Steve Polta >> >> >> --- On Mon, 8/29/11, carl elsaesser <elsaess...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> From: carl elsaesser <elsaess...@gmail.com> >> Subject: [Frameworks] Moving to San Francisco >> To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> Date: Monday, August 29, 2011, 9:51 AM >> >> Hey, I just moved to San Francisco from Maine >> and I wanted to check out the film community >> here. I would love any and all advice on >> organizing community events, if there are >> non-profit organizations set up for experimental >> film makers or of funding opportunities for young film-makers. >> >> even if it is just for coffee I would love to >> hear what artists have been up to here, and get >> a sense of collaboration possibilities. >> >> Thanks and too much love, >> >> -- >> cArl Elsaesser >> 207-607-2610 >> <http://www.youtube.com/user/camerac?feature=mhee>http:// >> www.youtube.com/user/camerac?feature=mhee >> >> >> >> -----Inline Attachment Follows----- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> >> _______________________________________________ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > ------------------------------------------- > > Aaron F. Ross > Digital Arts Guild > > _______________________________________________ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > _______________________________________________ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks