I hadn't anticipated that this little post I thought would interest some folks 
on this list would result in a credentials check.

Well, no disrespect to Gottlieb, assuming he's the mid-20s grad student in 
English at the University of Michigan that Google produces. (Sorry, I don't do 
Facebook.)  That fellow has been writing on film for some time, starting 
apparently as The Teenage Movie Critic on IMDB back in 1999 or so, and 
describing himself as an "amateur" film critic in the Jewish Journal in 2002, 
and going on more recently being noted in Jewcy.  He's done book reviews for 
the LA Times and movies for the Village Voice.  I'd like to meet him.

So, given that he's several years into a PhD program, I'm sure he has a high 
tolerance for pendants like me.  And I don't intend to write a letter to The 
Nation complaining about the error.  It did seem useful to correct for the 
record here where snow blindness (seeing only white) seems to prevail so often.

But, you are presumptuous to speculate that "he could be better educated in the 
subject than you…"  Are you a betting man, Estes?  I'll give you 10 to 1 odds.

Chuck



On Sep 28, 2012, at 10:13 AM, MICHAEL ESTES wrote:

"One complaint about the Gottlieb piece, though.  It's just plain wrong on 
Charles Burnett: he was not "a one man African-American New Wave," and his film 
Killer of Sheep didn't "fall off the map" after being screened at the Whitney."

Yeah,yeah- you must be used to this brand of mainstream journalism by now. Why 
mention it? For all you know he could be better educated in the subject than 
you, but chose to ignore the complications in order to tantalize  the 
uninitiated.

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Subject: [Frameworks] Two reviews on experimental film

The new issue (Oct 8) of the US political weekly, The Nation, has two articles 
of interest to this list.

Akiva Gottlieb reports on the 15 moving image episodes of the 2012 Whitney 
Biennial curated by Ed Halter and Thomas Beard.

And The Nation's regular art writer, Barry Schwabsky, reviews Kevin Hatch's 
excellent new book, Looking for Bruce Conner, which discusses the films but 
also the often lesser-known drawings and sculptures.

One complaint about the Gottlieb piece, though.  It's just plain wrong on 
Charles Burnett: he was not "a one man African-American New Wave," and his film 
Killer of Sheep didn't "fall off the map" after being screened at the Whitney.

Chuck Kleinhans




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