I'm willing to stipulate that your pendant is bigger than mine. I'll let the 
author speak for himself. The 10-1 odds you offer validate my statement "he 
could be better educated in the subject." Or do you dispute the meaning of 
"could be?"



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From: Chuck Kleinhans <chuck...@northwestern.edu>
To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>
Sent: Fri, September 28, 2012 3:13:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Two reviews on experimental film

 
I hadn't anticipated that this little post I thought would interest some folks 
on this list would result in a credentials check.

Well, no disrespect to Gottlieb, assuming he's the mid-20s grad student in 
English at the University of Michigan that Google produces. (Sorry, I don't do 
Facebook.)  That fellow has been writing on film for some time, starting 
apparently as The Teenage Movie  Critic on IMDB back in 1999 or so, and 
describing himself as an "amateur" film critic in the Jewish Journal in 2002, 
and going on more recently being noted in Jewcy.  He's done book reviews for 
the 
LA Times and movies for the Village Voice.  I'd like to meet  him. 


So, given that he's several years into a PhD program, I'm sure he has a high 
tolerance for pendants like me.  And I don't intend to write a letter to The 
Nation complaining about the error.  It did seem useful to correct for the 
record here where snow  blindness (seeing only white) seems to prevail so often.

But, you are presumptuous to speculate that "he could be better educated in the 
subject than you…"  Are you a betting man, Estes?  I'll give you 10 to 1 odds.

Chuck





On Sep 28, 2012, at 10:13 AM, MICHAEL ESTES wrote:

"One complaint about the Gottlieb piece, though.  It's just plain wrong on 
Charles Burnett: he was not "a one man African-American New Wave," and his film 
Killer of Sheep didn't "fall off the map" after being screened at the  Whitney."
>
>
>
>Yeah,yeah- you must be used to this brand of mainstream journalism by now. Why 
>mention it? For all you know he could be better educated in the subject than 
>you, but chose to ignore the complications in order to tantalize  the  
>uninitiated. 
>
>
>
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 From: Chuck Kleinhans <chuck...@northwestern.edu>
>To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>
>Sent: Fri, September 28, 2012 9:50:33 AM
>Subject: [Frameworks] Two reviews on experimental film
>
>The new issue (Oct 8) of the US political weekly, The Nation, has two articles 
>of interest to this list.
>
>Akiva Gottlieb reports on the 15 moving image episodes of the 2012 Whitney 
>Biennial curated by Ed Halter and Thomas Beard.
>
>And The Nation's regular art writer, Barry Schwabsky, reviews Kevin Hatch's 
>excellent new book, Looking for Bruce Conner, which discusses the films but 
>also 
>the often lesser-known drawings and sculptures.
>
>One complaint about the Gottlieb piece, though.  It's just plain wrong on 
>Charles Burnett: he was not "a one man African-American New Wave," and his 
>film 
>Killer of Sheep didn't "fall off the map" after being screened at the Whitney.
>
>Chuck Kleinhans
>
>
>
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