Re: [Frameworks] Films about labor and leisure--by womenI realize this is far 
too abstract for the goals of the original request, but let us not forget that 
labor and leisure are never separate. Not merely that one defines the other, 
but that under capitalism, leisure is part of labor. It’s an essential aspect 
of it. 

From: Adam Hyman 
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 5:00 PM
To: Experimental Film Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Films about labor and leisure--by women

Absolutely, I was just wanting to not lose track of the original request.  For 
example, I don’t really recall any “leisure” in Window Water Baby Moving, at 
least not as the original poster seemed to be looking for.  
Sorry about the tone of my original post; I have no intent to be the list 
police; just wanting to keep things useful for the question.  But that’s not my 
place either.

Best regards,

Adam


On 5/13/14 3:43 PM, "Chuck Kleinhans" <[email protected]> wrote:


  Perhaps you haven’t seen these films and don’t realize they also depict 
leisure. 


  On May 13, 2014, at 10:53 AM, Adam Hyman <[email protected]> wrote:


    The original request was :LABOR AND LEISURE TOGETHER."
    Not just "labor"


    On 5/13/14 8:17 AM, "Chuck Kleinhans" <[email protected]> wrote:


      If we could think about domestic labor, there¹s a whole lot of other 
films,
      many by women, to consider:


    Chantal Akerman, Jeanne Dielman 23 quai de

      Commerce

    Gunvor Nelson and Dorothy Wiley, SCHMEERGUNTZ
    Carikee Schneenman,

      Kitch¹s Last Meal

    Lizzie Borden, Working Girls
    Michelle Citron, Queer Fest

      (interactive media)

    Marjorie Keller, Misconcneption (and many other films by

      her)

    Joyce Weiland, Water Sark
    Chick Strand, Fake Fruit
    Laura Kipnis, Ecstasy

      Unlimited



    and all birth films, even those made by men like Water Window Baby

      Moving, contain representations of women¹s labor/women in labor



    and many

      many more films if we think about women¹s emotional labor in dealing with 
the
      family, or a man


    Chuck  Kleinhans


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