Truffaut: Day for Night.

Some of Jon Jost's early work?

Fellini: Eight and a Half.

Michael Snow: Two Sides to Every Story.





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From: David Tetzlaff <>
To: Experimental Film Discussion List <>
Sent: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 8:19
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] films on film-making/unfinished films

Living In Oblivion: the makers don't play themselves, but at least some of the 
characters are based on the makers. 

One P. M. (Leacock, Pennebaker, Godard)

Then there's the whole genre of documentaries beginning with a set-up of the 
makers stating an (ostensible) intent to make a certain kind of film, after 
which we see them failing at that and coming up with something else in the 
process: Nick Broomfield's "Aileen Wuornos: The Selling of a Serial Killer" and 
"Kurt and Courtney"; Greggorio Rocha's "Lost Reels of Pancho Villa", "Waiting 
for Fidel" (the grandaddy of the form), and, of course, "Roger and Me."

On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 11:41 PM, Suyash Barve <> wrote:

hello all,

i am looking for reference titles that fall within the genre of films made on 
unfinished films/films coming apart/film that is being shot or in prodcution. 
the film we are watching is actually about the makers who are playing 
themselves but are also characters in the film. the film that they are putting 
together could be just fragments of a scene being shot or a location recce 
being planned and need not be a conclusive/meaningful film in itself. the film 
that is being made acts as the bridge to enter the world of the criss-crossing 
destinies, interesting back-stories and character detail of the film-makers who 
are playing themselves on and off camera and who have been brought together 
because of the film. the lines between docu and fiction are blurred so to speak 
and the director is exploring the on and off camera dynamics between characters 
and situations. some of the titles we have in mind are : 

through the olive trees - abbas kiarostami

salaam cinema - mohsen makhmalbaf

contempt - j-l godard (although this one has a very different outcome, the film 
within a film and the characters are consistent with the reference titles we 
are trying to source)

mary - abel ferrera

a cock and bull story - michael winterbottom

thank you for your time and effort to read through this notice. looking forward 
to getting some responses!


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