They could just stick a magnet on the inching knob and use a reed switch, or a cheap low-res shaft encoder (could make one with a disk with a hole in it). That would make it immune to content.
Many of us are not immune to content… Discontentedly, Jeff Kreines Kinetta > On Dec 13, 2016, at 1:13 PM, Beebe, Roger W. <[email protected]> wrote: > > And in a similar vein, some of the folks from L’Abominable demo’d a pretty > nifty system this summer in Nantes that synced with a little light sensor > hooked to the front of the lens that just used the strobing of the shutter to > generate the sync pulse. (They were still working out kinks though, like how > to account for black film.) > > R. > > On Dec 13, 2016, at 2:06 PM, Jeff Kreines <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>> >>> On Dec 13, 2016, at 12:49 PM, Francisco Torres <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> which begs the question- are there are any double sound systems possible >>> today for 16 mm using standard projectors and some digital source? >> >> Richard Tuohy and Carl Looper (in Australia) have developed a clever system >> that attaches a passive sprocket with encoder to the feed arm of a >> projector and syncs it with a digital file playing on a laptop. Earlier Sam >> (?), RIP, did something similar using timecode on the optical track and a >> DTS player, but that was far more expensive. They are both on FB. >> >> The Sharples book is a good place to start. But a lot depends on where you >> are located and which lab you are using (for optical, that is). >> >> Jeff Kreines >> Kinetta >>> >>> >>> 2016-12-12 21:31 GMT-04:00 Kenneth Linehan <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>: >>> Hi Morgan, >>> >>> If you’re looking to obtain a final screening print ( 16mm ) with sync >>> sound, the primary format is optical sound track recording. There may be >>> people experimenting with making their own home-brew magnetic tracks, but >>> there’s little to no support for magnetic sound on 16mm these days. >>> >>> So, if you want to get an optical track made, you definitely can. >>> >>> There’s a lab in Canada that I’ve used recently to produce an optical >>> negative and they did very good work. >>> >>> Regarding the overall workflow questions you had, if you use film scanning >>> there are workflows that largely eliminate the need to use mag or a >>> Steenbeck to produce your soundtrack. Not that I’m opposed to those things >>> :) >>> This or may not apply to your workflow, but hopefully it will give you some >>> perspective on your options: >>> >>> Consider the possibility of having your film or negative scanned at 24fps ( >>> progressive ). Although this may add some cost up front, the scan can be >>> useful for many purposes not the least of which is facilitating digital >>> sound workflow. Once your film is scanned at 24fps progressive, maintaining >>> sound sync in the digital environment becomes much easier than with NTSC >>> telecine processes. Note, if you need an NTSC end product, my approach may >>> not totally suit you. >>> >>> Once you have your scan, import it as a quicktime movie into an audio >>> editing application like ProTools/DigitalPerformer/etc. Create a sync beep >>> and do all your overdub ( voice over ) in the audio app. Make sure the >>> audio editor transport counter is operating at 24fps. Beep must be placed >>> carefully. You can conform subsequent edits of scanned material in your >>> audio editor very easily while still editing on film at the same time. You >>> can conform edits on the fly as you work between film and digital >>> simultaneously if necessary. >>> >>> You can then mix using your audio workstation and send the mixed audio file >>> ( with sync beep ) to the optical sound lab and they will provide you an >>> optical negative. That optical neg can then be married to the image >>> negative in the final print by your lab. I used dropbox to transfer my mix >>> to the lab in Canada. >>> >>> There are lots of details and particulars you must be attentive to, but >>> that’s the overview. I’m happy to talk to you about it if you want to send >>> me an email. Other people may have other approaches. You need to find the >>> right mix of techniques for your personal process. >>> >>> Ken Linehan >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Dec 12, 2016, at 4:02 PM, Morgan Hoyle-Combs <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello to all who still film and record to 16mm film (or any celluloid >>>> format) >>>> >>>> I have an essay/diary that I'm filming with a few old 16mm Cine Kodak >>>> cameras. I already have notes and images, but what needs to come next is a >>>> voice over. Does anyone who has worked with 16mm sound know how I would go >>>> about doing this? I'm more than happy to be corrected, but I have it >>>> figured like this: I would record the to a magnetic reel, then I would >>>> organize my footage and make a print out of my reels AND in coordination >>>> with the dialog. But how would I go about putting the sound stock ONTO the >>>> film? I know that I would have to use SINLGE PERF to leave room for the >>>> sound tape. >>>> >>>> I think this is where I lose myself. Anyone have any ideas on where I >>>> should start? >>>> >>>> I'm using black and white FYI. >>>> >>>> -Morgan >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> FrameWorks mailing list >>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>>> <https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> FrameWorks mailing list >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>> <https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> FrameWorks mailing list >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>> <https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > _______________________________________________ > FrameWorks mailing list > [email protected] > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
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