Definitely see the influence of abstract expressionist painting.
> On Dec 9, 2017, at 5:16 PM, MARILYN BRAKHAGE <v...@shaw.ca> wrote: > > Obviously there are medium specific differences between painting on film > (being of small size and time-based) and painting on a large, single canvas. > But "abstract expressionism" can cover a fairly wide range of application, I > think -- not simply and only referring to the broad, gestural strokes of > so-called "action painting," for example. And Myron is right that Stan > Brakhage was deeply immersed in and inspired by many painters who would be > classified as abstract expressionist, and his painted work can be seen as > much closer in spirit and aesthetic values to them than to any animation > filmmaker I can think of. In fact, I would say that he extended the abstract > expressionist form through the addition of movement -- though there are few > filmmakers who have done it as well as he did, and many painted films do look > more like simple animation, lacking the formal cohesion of a Brakhage film. > > From: "Myron Ort" <z...@sonic.net> > To: "Experimental Film Discussion List" <frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com> > Sent: Saturday, December 9, 2017 11:42:53 AM > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Painting directly to film > > I would say that the most of Brakhage’s extensive painting on film was > inspired by the socalled Abstract Expressionist painters, I believe he said > as much. > > Brakhage was certainly not painting or scratching (“cute”) little animated > figures or the same tiresome (easy/lazy) cliches as most practitioners end up > doing. > > > > > > > > On Dec 4, 2017, at 3:48 PM, Robert Withers <withe...@earthlink.net > <mailto:withe...@earthlink.net>> wrote: > > Hi all, > I am bemused by this topic since the questioner specifically referred to > "abstract expressionist" painting on film There have been a lot of painters > on film including myself, and kids I taught in film class. > But I've never been aware of a painter on film who wasn't inspired > specifically by the traditions and techniques of experimental or animated > film, and the very technology of motion picture film itself. > > Abstract expressionists were very self-conscious of their specific practice > (I don't remember who named the style). With the big expressionistic > body-gestures it seems to have little to do with the careful, miniaturistic > practices of painters on film, no matter how free the projected image looked. > I fondly remember Brakhage's Persian Series which he created with a lightbox > and painting kit on the tables of a Colorado Cafe. > > Maybe art historians of the future will link all free abstract images as > "abstract expressionism" but I don't think so. > > Cheers, > Robert > > > WithersWorks.com <http://withersworks.com/> > 202 West 80th St. #5W > New York, NY 10024 > > > On Dec 3, 2017, at 7:00 AM, frameworks-requ...@jonasmekasfilms.com > <mailto:frameworks-requ...@jonasmekasfilms.com> wrote: > > Re: Painting directly to film > > _______________________________________________ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com <mailto:FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com> > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > Myron Ort > www.zeno-okeanos,com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > _______________________________________________ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
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