Uau,

Thank you for the formulas Chris!

Cheers,
Cris


2018-04-26 19:38 GMT-03:00 Chris G <spy...@gmail.com>:

> Hey Colin,
>
> I don’t have any measurement devices and honestly I’ve never kept track of
> my development times for this stock since I was told about this
> process-to-completion early on. I’ve mostly processed short strands less
> than 20’/7m in large paper developing trays as negative under a red safe
> light and just watched it until it looked ‘done’. I’ve done a lot of
> contact prints under a photo enlarger, bi-packing and shooting
> off-the-screen with it, but never as a camera stock. Based on visual
> inspection I’ve noticed it to be done when it’s done and will reiterate
> that it’s *probably* more about the exposure and developer than the
> development time.
>
> If you’re mixing your own D-19 you could try Dektol/D-72, it’s all the
> same chems at different quantities according to my sources:
>
> D-72 Dektol
>
> Water at 125F/52C, 750.0 ml
> Metol, 3.0 g
> Sodium sulfite, 45.0 g
> Hydroquinone, 12.0 g
> Sodium carbonate, monohydrate, 80.0 g
> Potassium bromide, 2.0 g
> Water to make 1.0 liter
>
> D-19
>
> Metol, 2.0 g
> Sodium sulfite, 90.0 g
> Hydroquinone, 8.0 g
> Sodium carbonate, monohydrate, 52.5 g (45 g anhydrous)
> Potassium bromide, 5.0 g
> Water to make 1.0 liter
>
> I’m slightly skeptical of the order as I’ve been mixing a lot of D-96
> lately and usually mix part of the sodium sulfite in first to prevent
> oxidization from either the Calgon and/or Metol (not sure, and full
> disclosure that I also failed chemistry all those years ago).
>
> I have some of this stock, a camera and bleach. If I can I’ll test it out
> soon at let you know!
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
>
> On Apr 25, 2018, at 03:41, Colin Brant <colinsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thank y'all for these responses!
>
> Seth, that is a great resource to know about, thanks for sending the link!
>
> Chris, I'm very curious about this idea that 7363 is "process to
> completion"! Are you saying that when it is "done" it's done and any extra
> time in the developer will not affect density? Just curious because I've
> heard of that for Fix but never for developer. The Kodak tech sheet, in
> regard to developer time, says "*develope to recommended control gamma*"
> which is defined as 2.90 to 3.20.
>
> Jason, my next tests are going to be at ASA 25... we'll see what happens :
> )
>
> Thanks again!
> Cin cin,
> cb
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 11:55 PM, Jason Halprin <jihalp...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Oh, and I seem to recall a friend stating that they rated 7363 as ISO 25,
>> and developed in D-19 1:1 for 9 minutes (as neg, spaghetti-bucket)
>>
>> Jason Halprin
>> jihalp...@gmail.com
>> jasonhalprin.com <jihalp...@gmail.com>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 11:54 PM, Jason Halprin <jihalp...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> For what it's worth, I shoot 7363 rated at ISO 6, and develop as neg in
>>> Dektol 4:1 for 90 sec (spaghetti-bucket method).
>>>
>>> -JH
>>>
>>> Jason Halprin
>>> jihalp...@gmail.com
>>> jasonhalprin.com <jihalp...@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 21, 2018 at 6:03 AM, Chris G <spy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Generally when I want to get a broader tonal range with 7363 I process
>>>> it in a paper developer like Dektol. I used Sprint paper developer
>>>> sometimes too. Never tried this with reversal though. The film is process
>>>> to completion so you can’t really overdevelop it. For less contrast you
>>>> could also try a lower concentration of developer.
>>>>
>>>> Chris Gorski
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 21, 2018, at 01:57, Dominic Angerame <dominic.anger...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I use this stock all the time I have it processed as reversal and rate
>>>> it anywhere between 10 or 12 asa i send processing out to a lab the stock
>>>> is tricky because it has very few greys if you want to sell any let me know
>>>> I still film with it contact me off sight for other tips
>>>> domi...@cinemod.net
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 20, 2018, at 3:52 PM, Isaac Brooks <isaacbrook...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> For the D19 treatment/negative I've rated it at a 25 ASA with
>>>> consistent results. If you have sealed D19, use it with that film.
>>>>
>>>> Isaac
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 5:30 PM Colin Brant <colinsbr...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Frameworks,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am having trouble finding consensus on how to shoot and process
>>>>> Kodak's now discontinued 7363 hi-con stock. I bought a bunch from the last
>>>>> run they did (2015 I believe) and am now starting to shoot it. I know that
>>>>> there have been threads that address this in the past (one even came up in
>>>>> a google search) and that this issue, or similar ones, are touched on in
>>>>> books like Kathryn Ramey's textbook -- but even so, I'm still left
>>>>> wondering how to rate it, and how to leave it in developer.
>>>>>
>>>>> My desire: shoot 7363 in daylight, develope in Lomo tank without
>>>>> push/pull in D19 as B&W Neg.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the first test I did, it was shot at 6ASA and developed for about
>>>>> 6min and this resulted in a mostly overexposed negative. Also, I'm most
>>>>> familiar with D19 so am not sure if there might be other equivalent
>>>>> developers requiring the same timing that could give me an idea of where 
>>>>> to
>>>>> begin.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any insight y'all may have would be greatly appreciated!
>>>>> cb
>>>>>
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