“Amarrando Pueblo” by Carlos Mayolo and Luis Ospina. "My head is made of the same matter of the sun"
> On Jul 10, 2018, at 5:35 PM, Scott MacDonald <smacd...@hamilton.edu> wrote: > > Well, all I'll say is that I don't see Punishment Park as "clueless"; Jeff > does. > > But, Sonya, you might find PP interesting, given your topic. The assemblage > of people gathered for the film were playing roles that allowed them to speak > as themselves, about current issues they cared about--they weren't > professional actors. > > Good luck with your process. > > Scott > >> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 6:15 PM, Jeff Kreines <j...@kinetta.com> wrote: >> Eliminating mediocre docudramas from the genre “documentaries” is hardly >> narrowing the definition. I dislike the D-word, perhaps because it has >> become meaningless due to arguments like this. >> >> I prefer the term “non-fiction.” >> >> Punishment Park is a somewhat clueless exercise using actors, um, >> enunciating their “feelings,” as you point out. >> >> I suppose one could view it as a “documentary” about actors exploring their >> “feelings,” but it fails as that. >> >> This reminds me of the Academy awarding “Best Documentary” to a >> Wolper-produced insect-fear film called The Hellstrom Chronicles. I suppose >> the insect footage might be “real.” But little else. >> >> The late-60s and early 70s spawned a lot of faux-documentaries, or films >> that coopted that era’s non-fiction style. Is FACES a documentary? Wanda? >> The Candidate? What about Spinal Tap? >> >> I realize that few people care about these distinctions anymore. >> >> Jeff Kreines >> Kinetta >> j...@kinetta.com >> kinetta.com >> >> Sent from iPhone. >> >>> On Jul 10, 2018, at 3:43 PM, Scott MacDonald <smacd...@hamilton.edu> wrote: >>> >>> Naaah, Punishment Park is not just faux doc style applied to fiction. >>> Watkins devised a fictional situation (based on aspects of the political >>> reality of that moment and a premonition of where reality might go next, as >>> of 1970), set up so that actors playing their real ideological selves (that >>> is, cast to play themselves and improvise their own dialogue) could >>> enunciate what they were actually feeling in 1971 and have their >>> impassioned arguments with each other documented--as the war in Vietnam >>> continued. >>> >>> I don't think Sonya is looking for a narrow definition of "documentary." >>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 3:47 PM, Jeff Kreines <j...@kinetta.com> wrote: >>>> None of those Peter Watkins films are documentaries. Faux-documentary >>>> style applied to fiction does not a documentary make. You should know >>>> better. >>>> >>>> Jeff Kreines >>>> Kinetta >>>> j...@kinetta.com >>>> kinetta.com >>>> >>>> Sent from iPhone. >>>> >>>>> On Jul 10, 2018, at 2:09 PM, luis ? <mabaluf...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> 25Cines/seg (2017) Luis Macías >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> El mar., 10 jul. 2018 a las 20:17, Jeff Kreines (<j...@kinetta.com>) >>>>>> escribió: >>>>>> Demon Lover Diary, by Joel DeMott. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jeff Kreines >>>>>> Kinetta >>>>>> j...@kinetta.com >>>>>> kinetta.com >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from iPhone. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jul 10, 2018, at 12:22 PM, Sonya Mladenova >>>>>>> <sonya.mladen...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Looking for documentary films shot with/within a group of people >>>>>>> engaged in an activity or some kind of project, independently or in an >>>>>>> organized environment, in which the filmmaker is a visible and/or an >>>>>>> active participatory presence. I'm especially interested in films from >>>>>>> the last 25-30 years. I'm investigating the relationship between the >>>>>>> filmed person(s) and the person(s) filming, whatever the configuration. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Somes examples, but not limited in scope: >>>>>>> Starless Dreams by Mehrdad Oskouei >>>>>>> À ciel ouvert by Mariana Otero >>>>>>> La moindre des choses by Nicolas Philibert >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Many many thanks, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sonya >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> FrameWorks mailing list >>>>>>> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >>>>>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> FrameWorks mailing list >>>>>> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >>>>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> FrameWorks mailing list >>>>> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >>>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> FrameWorks mailing list >>>> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> FrameWorks mailing list >>> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> >> _______________________________________________ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> > > _______________________________________________ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
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