On Thu May 29 2008 13:26:43 DAve wrote: > Gary Kline wrote: > > On Thu May 29 2008 00:39:06 Christian Zachariasen wrote: > >> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 8:57 AM, Gary Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> Several weeks ago a friend asked why my www.thought.org page > >>> was so hard to read. She said that part of my text was black > >>> on the deep-blue bg on my RHS. I stopped and checked with > >>> firefox; things looked fine. I've done all markup by hand since > >>> '94, very carefully, with only browsers in the ports tree-- > >>> mozilla, firefox, a couple others. > >>> > >>> About a week ago I viewed my homepage with KDE Konq and almost > >>> flipped out. One "free" commercial historical calender event > >>> feature was glued to the bottom of my blue bar (<TABLE></TABLE>) > >>> on the RHS of the page. And yep, the new text and other things > >>> were centered in the middle of the long blue rectangle. > >>> > >>> Since I have a few weeks now to work on things beside research, > >>> it's time to update my main web page. My friend was using IE; > >>> it may be that Konqueror uses a similar parser to position > >>> things on a .php or .html page. > >>> > >>> Other than beginning from Zero and trying to determine exactly > >>> what causes firefox and konq to diverge, do any of you have any > >>> other ideas? I've never learned an HTML editors because of the > >>> learning curve. But:: if/when I come up with a better design > >>> for my home page, I'm willing to try again:: any best (simple) HTML > >>> editors in ports? > >>> > >>> I'd be much obliged for any help here. > >> > >> I say keep using the technique you're using now. That's what I'd do. > >> Instead of finding a HTML Editor > >> just find a simple text editor and write all your HTML in a clean > >> manner. > >> > >> I don't know where Ted got his statistics from, but most people I know > >> use simple text editors for writing their HTML, CSS > >> and JavaScript. Personally I stick to vi or diakonos on BSD and Notepad2 > >> on Windows. > > > > /* > > * strange:: the way that mutt queues [ and orders ] its replies and > > theads is * different from kmail. I only use a GUI when there is a URL > > embedded, but * it must be down-queue. .... > > */ > > > > I would *rather* use vi and HTML-by-hand. And produce very simple, > > readable, uncluttered pages. I don't use many graphics, e.g., I use the > > strength of HTML, php, blah ** 3. > > > > I'm ready to learn this "CMS" that Ted mentioned if I knew what it was! > > And if its in ports. AFAIK, the only pages that look bizarre are my > > initial "www" (and one other based on it). I'll google around to find > > out what CMS is... > > I still prefer html by hand. I use VIM though all our designers and > developers use Dreamweaver, funny few if any can fix the HTML if the > tool munges it. Many have no idea how HTML works. > > As far as CMS tools go some create nice pages but at a cost. We have > several clients who insist on CMS tools. The joke around our Office is > [Joomla|Rails|other] is the only tool known to man to require 1GB server > memory to load all the required libs in displaying "Hello World". Some > of the CMS tools are very very heavy. Straight static HTML can be > blisteringly fast in comparison unless you have low traffic or a fairly > hefty server. Static HTML also doesn't show up in my CERT emails every > month with security issues. > > My 2 cents worth...
well, for years my favored method is "kiss" == "keep it simple, sir." i'm still chiuckling over that tool that requires a GIG to load. gary ps: thanks to Google: CMS == "content mgnt system" > > DAve -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"