On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 12:01:28PM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 09:16:04PM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 09:56:56PM -0600, Steven Susbauer wrote:
> > > Jerry McAllister wrote:
> > >>> Maybe I am wrong, but I feel it shouldn't be necessary to waste
> > >>> 3 CDs
> > >>> from installation if I have a high-speed permanent Internet
> > >>> connection.
> > >>> So
> > >>> wouldn't just 1 DVD-RW do?
> > >>
> > >> Basically, you are wrong, because you haven't looked far enough in to
> > >> things to know that FreeBSD has done it that way from the beginning
> > >> (or almost that far back). I have never done a complete install from
> > >> a CD or DVD, but just acquired the first disk, booted the install
> > >> program and then done the install over the net. I've been doing that
> > >> for more than 10 years and am far from being an early adopter. Others
> > >> have
> > >> done so much longer.
> > >>
> > >> But, some people are [still] not in the positition to be able to do
> > >> installs over the net. Their service is inadequate or, in some
> > >> cases they are not even connected, so the whole system is made available
> > >> to them on disk as well.
> > >>
> > >> Actually, I believe, if you are doing just the FreeBSD install, and
> > >> not at the same time installing some of the ports, it is still layed
> > >> out to need only the first CD even if you are not installing over the
> > >> net. But, I haven't checked recent versions. The other CDs contain
> > >> the sources for various ports and some special case things.
> > >>
> > >> ////jerry
> > >>
> > > This is still the behavior. You can install any of the base
> > > distributions for that release with only disc 1, as well as some of the
> > > ports. I have had issues booting the netinstall cds for some reason, and
> > > installing the distribution from the cd goes faster anyway.
> > Just make sure that if you choose "src" or "ports", that you properly
> > "adopt" your src and ports trees. (This is why I often advocate not
> > installing src/ports from CD/DVD/FTP/whatever, and instead using
> > csup once the box is up and working).
> Do you really mean 'update' instead of "adopt"
> Otherwise, I don't know what you mean by "adopt" in this context.
Nope, I said "adopt" and I do in fact mean "adopt". The below site is
for cvsup, but what I'm describing affects csup as well -- it's just
the nature of the beast.
The simple version of why this is necessary: when you install src or
ports from the installation media, there is no associated CVS database
to cross-reference what version of the file correlates with what on the
cvsup server. The databases are stored in /var/db/sup (or /usr/sup
if you're using a very old version of FreeBSD with very old supfiles).
Thus, "adopting" means you need to create those databases to make sure
the cvsup/csup tools are truly "in sync" with what exists on your
filesystem (in /usr/src and /usr/ports).
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