> 
> Felt a need to clarify this; flame me
> where I'm wrong....
> 
> Jerry McAllister wrote:
> 
> >Actually, I think the intention of the MINI-ISO is to boot and
> >run the installation with everything loaded from one of the ftp
> >sites.   
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> This doesn't sound correct at all.  What you've described is
> what the _floppies_ do.  They boot and run sysinstall and get
> you to the 'Net for FTP setup.  The mini ISO gives you the
> "minimal" install.  That is, the root stuff (/, etc, bin, sbin, stand,
> and /usr/sbin, /usr/bin, the gnu and otherwise contributed base,
> and /var (cron files and so on)....

No.   What about systems without floppies?

> After running sysinstall from the mini ISO, you
> should be able to have a working system without
> accessing the 'Net.  However, that simply means
> that you can use the CLI to go further, and most
> everyone will want to.

You may be able to get a very minimal system, but you must get
everything else (as you list below) via ftp.   So, I may have
underestimated the amount of minimal stuff on the mini-iso, but
the principle is the same.   You burn a mini-iso to do an install
via ftp over the net.   If you have a floppy drive and want to
use floppies, you can do that just as easily.
  
> There is no ports skeleton installed, no ports tarballs,
> no documentation, no packages, no compat, no X,
> just good old ls, cat, grep, tar, etc.  and a few
> editors (vi, ed, ee) ... As close as you'll get to
> a GUI with the mini ISO and no net connection
> is the sysinstall program itself.
> 
> >You just burn the MINI-ISO directly to CD and boot from it - no other
> >manipulation of the file such as trying to uncompress it or make a
> >bootable file system.  It is all already there as is..
> >  
> 
> Yes...IIRC, there can be some issues if the burn tool
> you're using doesn't speak the correct lingo.  If that's
> the case, you'll likely not boot from it OR do any further
> installation.
> 
> >You burn the CD, boot it, do the preliminary stuff and then when selecting
> >install media, choose ftp and then pick a site that is convenient from
> >the list and it handles all the rest.   If you have a good high speed
> >net connection - at a university or something, it takes less than
> >an hour.
> >
> As I said, not necessary until you get around to something
> not listed above.  See my earlier post on my strategy for this.

You barely have a system at that level - at least not what we
generally think of as  real server or development environments.

////jerry

> 
> As for the speed, that's probably true.  But the full ISO #1
> was 5-6 hours over T1 last I checked (and trusting the telco's
> word that it was really a T1 --- I was skeptical after seeing
> that estimate....)

Well, I never download the full iso #1 or #2 because it works well
via ftp.
/jrm

> 
> Kevin Kinsey
> DaleCo, S.P.
> 

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