On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 00:59:58 -0600
Lloyd Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >Linux is for people who hate Micro$oft.
> >BSD is for people who love Unix.
> Under these conditions, I guess that I need to go for Linux...
> Seriously, one thing that catches my attention is that I don't see any 
> really great differences between the BSD (Any version) and the Linux 
> community. In doing some reading, it appears that the people at KDE and 

Hello Lloyd,

I can't help but piping in here with my (er, someone else's) 2 cents.  For
a nice overview of the fundamental differences (and similarities) between
FreeBSD and Linux-choose-your-flavour, take a gander at the following


It is a well written and rewarding read which presents (IMHO) a fair and
balanced take on the matter.  I have had only 'thanks' from those to whom I
have provided the link.

Hope that this provides you with a footing solid enough to make a
comfortable and informed decision.


> Gnome, as well as many others, have this same thought. I was actually 
> pointed in the FreeBSD direction by a magazine writer whom I was 
> communicating with about the future of Linux. We talked by email and he 
> thought that FreeBSD had to most promise of a good future. He suggested 
> that I should check FreeBSD out.
> Understand that learning UNIX is not my end goal. It may happen in the 
> process, but being a master of the UNIX system is not my end goal. Nor 
> is writing programs my goal. I wrote a ton of programs 20 years ago, but 
> I haven't written a single line of code in 10 years. I have no wish to 
> work in an IT shop anywhere. My goal is simply to keep some of my older 
> computers useful. I care less about which operating system I am using as 
> long as it does the job that I want. This business of buying new 
> computers every year or two is a Micro$oft idea. It is also an idea that 
> needs to be re-thought.
> Micro$oft is great about jumping onto new technology with half-baked 
> software. When they get close to fixing their software, then they 
> abandon it for new technology and more half-baked software expecting 
> people to buy the new hardware/software. It's a system that Micro$oft 
> can't be beaten at. I simply think that it is time for a change.
> (I'm not against new ideas. But I hate keeping up with Mr. Gates.)
> Lloyd Hayes
> URL: http://TalkingStaff.bravehost.com
> E-FAX Number: (208) 248-6590
> Web Journal: http://lloyd_hayes.bravejournal.com/
> Tom McLaughlin wrote:
> >On Sat, 2004-06-19 at 15:40, Jorn Argelo wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>Lloyd Hayes wrote:
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>I finally decided that I needed to get more information on FreeBSD. I 
> >>>got it up and running, then I did something else and I start getting 
> >>>errors again....
> >>>
> >>>So I just ordered 3 books on FreeBSD from Amazon. In most of the 
> >>>reviews posted there about the books, people were complaining about 
> >>>weak documentation, too much information about things that they were 
> >>>not interested in, and errors in the in the books which seems to be 
> >>>the most common complaint. In my very short recent history with 
> >>>FreeBSD, I've formed the opinion that documenting FreeBSD is it's 
> >>>greatest weakness. FreeBSD needs someone who can actually type to 
> >>>write a good book for beginners who have never seen UNIX code. A book 
> >>>is needed with examples that actually WORK! Examples that are 
> >>>explained in plain English. There seems to be very few books on 
> >>>FreeBSD around.
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>Beginners who never seen UNIX coude shouldn't start with FreeBSD in the
> >>first place, if you ask me. They should start Mandrake Linux or SuSe or
> >>something of the sorts. FreeBSD isn't made to make an "user friendly" 
> >>operating system, as Mandrake Linux is aiming at. You just have to know
> >>some Unix stuff before you even start with FreeBSD.
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >I would have to disgree having my first *nix experience five years ago
> >with Mandrake and switching to FreeBSD a number of months ago.  I
> >switched to FreeBSD because I felt my unix skills were getting rusty. 
> >When I started with Mandrake I did most of my system configuration and
> >administration from the command line and I learned a lot of unix in
> >those first few years.  
> >
> >Over time with the inclusion of more GUI based tools that became
> >harder.  Files seemed to keep moving or configuration was spread across
> >too many files.  I believe you end up becomming too dependant on the
> >distribution specific configuration tools with Linux and you don't
> >truely learn the system.  For anyone who really wants to learn unix the
> >BSDs are the place to start.
> >
> >Linux is for people who hate Micro$oft.
> >BSD is for people who love Unix.
> >
> >Tom
> >
> >  
> >
> >>I have the book on the below link, and I must say it is very very good.
> >>Good examples and clearly elaborated, though it lacks in-depth 
> >>information, which might be handy for more advanced users. It's good
> >for >beginners who are comfortable in a Unix or Linux enviroment. Why
> >don't >you give that one a shot?
> >>
> >>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0072224096/104-0798845-8
> >369533?v=glance>
> >>And what about our own FreeBSD Handbook? Don't tell me that that is
> >bad, >because there is book that can beat it if you ask me.
> >>
> >>http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/
> >>
> >>Cheers,
> >>
> >>Jorn
> >>_______________________________________________
> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
> >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
> >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to
> >>
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> _______________________________________________
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
> To unsubscribe, send any mail to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

Reply via email to