Am 07.07.10 22:52, schrieb Mikhail T.:
07.07.2010 16:34, Randi Harper ???????(??):
Attached is the kernel config-file (i386), that worked fine under
7.x. The
kernel-compile will break (some *freebsd7* structs undefined),
without the
COMPAT_FREEBSD7 option. Try it for yourself...
Don't use a kernel config from 7. We've already told you this.
Your "telling" me this is just as valid as warning me against using
computer-cases of a particular color. It is a silly requirement. My
expecting things, that worked for 7, to work in 8 is reasonable. There
may be (documented!) exceptions, but it ought to "just work".
No. Your expectation is plain wrong. The opposite should be true. If you
do a major upgrade (and moving from 7.x to 8 is a major upgrade) you
should expect all kinds of changes.
What you can expect is, that they're documented in the release notes.
This would be a fine gesture of the FreeBSD community.
And since I use FreeBSD since 4.0, I can tell, that the documentation of
changes is remarkable.
If you expect that things continue to work after a major upgrade you
really live in some kind of a dreamworld...
These changes aren't gratuitous. Did you read the commit messages
behind each of the changes? I'm guessing that you haven't.
No, and I'm not going to. A commercial OS would've been the laughing
stock, if one hand to change C: to 1: between releases, for example...
Ah! But changing the $HOME of users of that commercial OS from
c:\Documents and Settings\ to c:\Users is okay, right?
Wake up man!
Again: this particular change seems gratuitous.
It's not. You didn't bother researching before complaining.
I bothered to type up my list. Presumably, problem-reports are
welcome. I've been a Unix-user since 1990, a FreeBSD user since 1993
(or 94?), and a project-member for a decade. If *I* have a problem,
then newer users certainly will too. And, guess what, they'll simply
go with something, that does not give as much grief...
Then they should do. pfff...
I'd like to see them using Linux, which obviously never changes
arbitrary... ha.
And if you're a unix user since the 1990'ies then you really should know
better.
The modification should be necessary.
Why? Why should a netboot act differently from a local boot from CD?
Because it's a completely different type of booting? Oh come one...
You don't. But there is very little, that needs to be added there for
it to "just work" over both netboot and local CD, and you should do
it, instead of arguing with me here... No, I don't know, what it is
exactly, but I'm quite certain, it can't be very much.
If it's that important to you, then send in a patch. As a FreeBSD user
since 1993 (or 94) you could do your beloved OS a favor, right?
In fact, the article about PXE booting on the official freebsd
website says
nothing about using the ISO. You just found some article that said it
was possible (and it is) and complained because you didn't like the
process?
Yes, exactly. I didn't like process -- it is needlessly complicated.
The same CD-image, /should/ also be usable "out of the box" for
netbooting.
Then make it work, for f*cks sake!
> From the man page:
The amdtemp driver provides support for the on-die digital
thermal sensor
present in AMD K8, K10 and K11 processors.
I know nothing about the driver. But a utility I regularly used
stopped working after upgrade, so I added that to my list of
upgrade-related grudges.
As an old fashioned unix guru you should know lots and lots about the
driver. Or at least, as a minimum, you should be aware of the available
manpage for a utility you're using regularly!
Cheers!
./Marian
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