Jerome

Thanks for your detailed instructions - HOWEVER  nothing seemed to work for me.


With my Windows 10 computer, I could not even get to any install screen (for 
FD13 RC5), even IF I wanted to use full install USB stick for hard drive 
install (maybe I just misunderstood your instructions). So for instance I could 
not get to the FDISK stage.

Using RUFUS to FAT32 format usb and the usb img file results in an error 
message (and the usb stick is "dead" now) - as below.


I hope the following links (photos of attempts for FreeDOS install) are 
self-explanatory.



When using RUFUS with FD img file

https://www.dropbox.com/s/bevyd8dn2nfg18c/FreeDOS13_format_error.PNG?dl=1





BOOT screen (how I can select Windows or otherwise)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/glpj72yjck4xrhl/BOOT%20IGP2197.JPG?dl=1





With FD 13 RC5 on NTFS formatted usb stick (booting from this)  --> no OS

https://www.dropbox.com/s/x3lh2tu6w6lbfoc/noOS_IGP2203.JPG?dl=1





Using RUFUS to format FAT32 with RUFUS version of FreeDOS

https://www.dropbox.com/s/x4cf6dg4d440g30/Rufus%20IGP2204.JPG?dl=1





What RUFUS supplies as FreeDOS

https://www.dropbox.com/s/z70835deg3npqdy/c%3B%60LOCALE%60_IGP2195.JPG?dl=1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/52gx0rwnmkevbta/c%3Blocale%60%60_IGP2196.JPG?dl=1



AUTORUN.inf

; Created by Rufus 3.17.1846
; https://rufus.ie
[autorun]
icon  = autorun.ico
label = 16 GB


J:\>type autoexec.bat
@echo off
set PATH=.;\;\LOCALE
echo Using US-English keyboard with US-English codepage [437]






So to sum up - all I have now is a usb stick, formatted by Rufus, with next to 
nothing of FreeDOS files.


Could I just download the individual FreeDOS files and simply copy them onto 
the Rufus usb stick (or is it not that simple)?


Thanks


Richard


________________________________
From: Jerome Shidel <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, 27 December 2021 1:06 PM
To: FreeDOS Developers <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] Bare Metal installation of FreeDOS

Hi,

> On Dec 26, 2021, at 5:32 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>
> I am investigating installing FreeDOS 1.3 RC5 as a bare metal installation 
> (i.e. everything is on a 16 GByte USB stick) and will try to boot off the USB 
> stick (i.e. the USB stick becomes the C:\ drive and so the hard drive with 
> Windows 10x64 is not accessible).
>
> I have never used FreeDOS before - a while ago I experimented with a RUFUS 
> formatted USB stick FAT32 and used same as a bare metal setup for DOS (and 
> with some 30 year old 16 bit software and a special DOS version recent 
> software package).
>
> A partial list of DOS-type files on the USB stick include HIMEM.exe 
> UMBPCI.sys MEM.exe MORE.exe EMMEX.exe EMM386.exe XDVD2.sys RDISK.com and 
> others (all are dated later than 2005).
>
> At this stage I wish to avoid say using (DOSbox and DOSbox-X) and Virtual 
> Machine.
>
>
> From my experimenting with above I was happy to, from DOS environment, to 
> actually access a 3200x1800 display (though I did end up with only about 240 
> colors - not millions of colors). There were a number of issues I could not 
> sort out with my previous bare metal configuration.
>
> The computer I am using has an INTEL i7 x64, 256 GByte PCIe SSD, 4TByte SSD, 
> built-in DVD drive, 32 GByte RAM and 3200x1800 display. The computer is about 
> 8 years old.
>
> If I understand correctly, all your releases are for actual installation on a 
> hard drive - i.e. not for installation onto a USB BOOT stick. Because I had 
> serious problems when I previously tried to have dual boot (Windows initially 
> installed + LINUX later) - resulting in computer not being useable for 2 
> weeks until I could finally completely re-install Windows + apps - I do not 
> wish to install anything onto the hard drive (at this stage).
>
> Is it possible to have a zip file of the individual FreeDOS programs - so 
> that I can copy same to my already FAT32 formatted USB stick (i.e. as  a 
> "parallel" DOS-type operating system)?
>
> I look forward to using FreeDOS, though I may be initially faced with various 
> issues for my bare metal configuration requirements.

There is a way to install FreeDOS to a USB stick by only using a USB drive…
        • Download FD13-FULL usb stick images.
        • On a Unix, Linux or macOS use dd to write that image to the Flash 
Drive. There should be a Windows equivalent to dd (I don’t know what it is). 
The image should be written as-is and not stretched or modified by the program 
writing it.
        • Boot the Flash Drive and exit the installer.
        • Use FDISK to manually create an additional partition on the USB stick 
and reboot again.
        • Use FDISK to identify the drive letter assigned to the new partition 
and exit. (I will assume it is E:)
        • Change directories to C:\FDOS-x86
        • Run “setup E:\FREEDOS”
        • (answer the prompts, and install FreeDOS)
        • Reboot

There is a minor bug in the FloppyEdition installer that I just discovered 
while doing this myself. Once the system reboots, there will be an error 
loading the shell (COMMAND.COM). Until the next OS release, this is how you fix 
it.

        • type “C:\COMMAND.COM” and hit enter
        • type “FREEDOS\BIN\EDIT FDCONFIG.SYS” and press enter
        • there are two lines near the end that will have “/C:1024” change them 
to “/E:1024”, save and exit.
        • reboot

That should provide you with a BASE FreeDOS install. The original partition 
will still be available and you can use FDIMPLES or another package manager to 
add or remove different programs as needed.

There is a way to do something similar using the Primary Installer. However 
depending on your hardware and BIOS, using the FloppyEdition installer is more 
reliable.

:-)

Jerome



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