Jerome
Wilhelm

Just to let you know how I went with FD RC5 bare metal installation only on usb 
stick.

Summary - Rufus formatted FAT32 16 GByte usb flash drive ->
c:\  512 Mbyte
d:\ 14000 MByte

which so far seems to boot up OK.

If you are interested, the following link is camera screenshots of various 
stages in creating usb flash drive.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/hz60qalgpbsk4oh/AABv73hXOZobftArLKFgSSo2a?dl=1



Now that I have a somewhat usable DOS-type OS - I will now experiment on what 
hardware in my computer I can access (this may take me quite some time). I wish 
to establish things like maximum number of usb drives, DVD drive, SATA and 
PCIe, RAMdrive, mouse, touchpad, graphics resolution, RAM memory, etc.

In the above link, photo 002.jpg illustrates error with CD-ROM initialization - 
attempting to use the UDVD2 CD driver -error 255 (failed). Any ideas how to 
fix? My laptop has an internal DVD drive (laptop about 8 years old).

I gather that now I will encounter issues specific to my BIOS/hardware - 
hopefully eventually I will have workarounds to these issues.

Richard

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, 28 December 2021 12:35 AM
To: Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers. 
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] Bare Metal installation of FreeDOS

Jerome

I think I may have worked out what the error with RUFUS was all about.


I went into Windows anti-virus (AV) and set up RUFUS.exe as an "exclusion 
file". Re-ran the RUFUS formatting exercise on the usb stick and this time NO 
ERRORS.

Below is a simple DIR of my usb stick



 Volume in drive J is FD13-FULL
 Volume Serial Number is 1C44-19F6

 Directory of J:\

12/08/2021  05:39 PM            46,256 KERNEL.SYS
12/08/2021  05:39 PM            85,480 COMMAND.COM
12/08/2021  06:17 PM             1,931 fdauto.bat
12/08/2021  05:39 PM               223 fdconfig.sys
12/08/2021  06:17 PM    <DIR>          FDOS-x86
12/08/2021  06:08 PM    <DIR>          freedos
12/08/2021  06:17 PM    <DIR>          packages
12/08/2021  05:39 PM             6,773 setup.bat
               5 File(s)        140,663 bytes
               3 Dir(s)     132,096,000 bytes free



Will try this usb stick in an hour or so.


Sorry for the inconvenience I may have caused you.


Richard





________________________________
From: Jerome Shidel <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, 28 December 2021 12:07 AM
To: FreeDOS Developers <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] Bare Metal installation of FreeDOS

Hello,

> On Dec 27, 2021, at 7:41 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>
> Jerome
>
>
> Thanks for your detailed instructions - HOWEVER  nothing seemed to work for 
> me.
>
>
> With my Windows 10 computer, I could not even get to any install screen (for 
> FD13 RC5), even IF I wanted to use full install USB stick for hard drive 
> install (maybe I just misunderstood your instructions). So for instance I 
> could not get to the FDISK stage.
>
> Using RUFUS to FAT32 format usb and the usb img file results in an error 
> message (and the usb stick is "dead" now) - as below.
>
>
> I hope the following links (photos of attempts for FreeDOS install) are 
> self-explanatory.
>
>
>
> When using RUFUS with FD img file
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/bevyd8dn2nfg18c/FreeDOS13_format_error.PNG?dl=1
>

This makes me wonder if there is an issue with the USB stick itself.
Or, if RUFUS is manipulating the IMG before writing it.

For all intents and purposes, I haven't used Windows in 15+ years. I do have a 
Win10 box. But other that cross-compiling and video conferencing, I basically 
don’t use it. So unfortunately, I have know idea what RUFUS may or may not be 
doing when it writes the image to the USB stick.

> With FD 13 RC5 on NTFS formatted usb stick (booting from this)  --> no OS
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/x3lh2tu6w6lbfoc/noOS_IGP2203.JPG?dl=1

The OS does not natively support NTFS.

Booting from and using FAT32 is not a problem.

> Using RUFUS to format FAT32 with RUFUS version of FreeDOS
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/x4cf6dg4d440g30/Rufus%20IGP2204.JPG?dl=1

Since the RUFUS version of FreeDOS boots… This should work.

Download the LiveCD.
Extract the zip and mount the iso image.
copy the FDOS-x86 and packages directory from the CD to the USB stick. (The 
rest won’t be needed)
boot the USB stick.
change to FDOS-x86 and run “setup adv” (no need to backup, make sure your OS 
Target drive matches the USB stick — drive C: also probably skip updating the 
MBR)

That should install BASE and allow you to install packages using FDIMPLES.

Otherwise, you can do stuff manually and you can get a mostly working version 
of FreeDOS.  But, the directory structure will probably not match what is 
expected by many things and you may run into many minor issues. But, it is 
doable.

Jerome

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