Hi Jim,

On Oct 1, 2023, at 5:06 PM, Jim Hall via Freedos-devel <freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

I want to compile some things using IA-16 GCC in the new Interim Build
T2310, but neither the LiveCD or BonusCD have the DJGPP Environment
package on it. We had this on previous FreeDOS installs; to compile
with IA-16 GCC, you need to set the DJGPP environment variable to a
DJGPP.ENV file.

Or is the DJGPP Environment package on one of the ISOs, and I've
missed it somehow?

This is the package from FD13:
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/repositories/1.3/pkg-html/djgpp.html


The DJGPP are massive. There is not enough room on the CDs for everything else when DJGPP is included. Off-hand I think those packages require something like 350Mb.

Plus… there have been “complaints” that the DJGPP needed updating and some other tools/packages should also get included.

I’m not a DJGPP user and don’t want to break those packages. So, I’m not updating them. However, Paul Dufresne was working on the packages in the FreeDOS archive. Unfortunately, I think that work has stagnated. 

Also, since DJGPP uses some much space. The community still needs to decide how we are going to handle the problem. Some discussion was done here about a year ago. But, that also remains unresolved.

I don’t know what the minimum required packages would be. Or, how much space they would require.  It might be possible to just include a few of them on either the install or bonus media.

Possibly leave out some other packages to make room for some of the DJGPP packages. But in general, users tend to become very unhappy when something the use gets removed.

Maybe it would be best to move nearly all Development packages to a DevelCD. Leaving only a couple very common tools (like NASM, UPX and a C compiler) on the main install/bonus media. With large packages (like Perl, FPC, DJGPP, etc) only on a DevelCD.

The community needs to decide how we are going to handle the lack of sufficient storage capacity on the release media. 

In the meantime, the DJGPP packages have been sitting in limbo. 

Jerome








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