On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 09:29:40 +0100, you wrote:

Hi,

>What a load of nonsense this is.

If you talk about the GPL, there're misunderstanding here.

>That was not a particularly useful thing to do Johnson.

I think you missed some scene here, so I don't want to talk about the
"personal matter" between Jack, Mr. Devore and Mr. Eric. I respect the
spirit of GPL, need clarify.

>Completely incorrect.  If you release something under GNU GPL license
>you cannot revoke that license.  "The GNU General Public License is
>intended to guarantee your freedom to share and change free software--to
>make sure the software is free for all its users."  The license can only
>be selectively revoked if people break the terms contained inside the
>license.

The situation is a bit complex, I'm not going to judge because I don't
know the "law" thing, but I'll try to explain and you can judge
yourself.

1) Jack don't want to let people think his work is "a part of
FreeDOS", he didn't ask ALL the people to remove the XDMA source, just
don't want it on FreeDOS server

2) He didn't limit anyone to use the XDMA source, you can get a copy
anywhere and modify it, he allow

3) Jim Hall insist he have the right to host the XDMA, I agree GPL
grant the right to distribute the source and the binary, but I explain
to Jim Hall that if he insist, Jack will "take action" to reflect his
dissatisfy, finally because Jim Hall still keep the XDMA on Ibiblio
server, Jack stop release update XDMA, he change the program name,
change the license and closed the source

The final result is no one have the source, the author have the right
to do anything, GPL is a right which grant by the author, now the
author want his work "independent" by removing it from a certain
place, is it conflicting with GPL?

>If this gent has any reason to doubt this, I suggest talking to Dave
>(Turner) at the Free Software Foundation.  He's in charge of licenses,
>so you can contact him at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I think it's too late, the author choose to stop developing XDMA
I cannot force him to do anything, did you agree?

>The rest of the email is a waste of time.

I agree, it doesn't help anything, just to let the other know the
author was unhappy because of some reasons, he didn't go crazy and ask
everybody to remove the source and binary, he did it with REASONS.

>Johnson, I stress that we are meant to be making software, not helping
>people vent their bile in public.  Your reposting of this does not help
>the project in any way.

I don't have a proper word, I call it the "human emotion", all kind of
"unhappy, hatred, angry". You're right, that doesn't help anything.

Being a friend of him, I help him to post the message, and to explain
the situation, because seems everyone think that he's crazy, going
nuts

The human emotion are the most complex things that I don't want to
involve, especially during a project, but someone did "light the fire"
again and again.

>There are real things that need to be done.  The FreeDOS Beta9sr2
>distribution is broken (and I am working to fix that).  There are bugs
>listed in the roadmap.  I suggest contributing to something useful.

Totally agree.
I sent a message to Bernd, beg him to help.
Maybe I say something wrong to him, I don't know. I want to apologize
to him because he's involved in the "emotion war".

>Shane
>OpenGEM Project Leader

Glad that your project didn't affected.


Rgds,
Johnson.


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