I for one, loved Dos would still be using Dos if, and it's a big if, it
would load into my system without a problem and then run all the programs I
need to run like, Outlook, windows Office 2007, I have to be compatible with
all my programs. I love dos I knew where each program was in its own
directory I created the directory myself. If I didn't want the program I
just deleted the directory. I have yet to figure out what good the windows
registry is. Ooo I know it's used to load information for programs to run
and not being a programmer I still loved using edit to make com programs for
myself, I miss dos but I have to know when I load a Dos, Free Dos or other,
that I can run all the program I have and still be compatible with the
business community. I guess too much to ask any one person or two to do
especially for free.

Ron Spruell Sr.   

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Robinson [mailto:plu...@robinson-west.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 5:31 PM
To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Freedos-user] What do you need from Windows world...

I haven't gotten the positive response I had hoped for trying 
to drum up some interest in a Windows 9x replacement.  Some 
have talked about possibly enhacing HX extender and cloning 
Windows 3.x first, which makes a lot of sense.

Maybe it doesn't make sense to replace dos based Windows.  
Maybe dos based Windows is dead.  So what to do those of 
us who like some program or need some program that requires 
a dos based version of Microsoft Windows?  None of the 
versions available are supported by Microsoft and none of 
the versions are Y2K compliant.  There is an open source 
service pack for Windows 98 SE, but it doesn't fix 
everything that's wrong.

One answer to the what to do question is to have people start
to list what they lose that they want if they don't have a dos
compatible Windows environment.  I am talking Windows 3.x and
Windows9x/ME.

One thing you lose if you have to use Windows XP is the 
ability to run smoothly on older computer hardware.  I 
am talking 500mhz and below.  Also, some programs just
won't work in an NT based environment.  Some will say,
just get NT versions of whatever you want.  Great, but
that rules out a lot of computers and there is no free
NT option right now.  There is WINE, but that only 
gets you so far.

Well, that list could be useful as the programs people 
want from Windows land may be replaceable with equivalent 
ones that run on top of say opengem.  For instance, how 
hard would it be using opengem as a starting point to 
support abiword or openoffice?  How about firefox?  You 
can get the latter three programs for Linux, but maybe 
you can't run Linux because you have a lot of dos 
software or an older computer.  Yes you can run freedos
under dosemu or vmware, if your computer is fast enough
and you really want to.  Thing is, maybe your games or
whatever you use won't work so well under emulation.

I run freedos natively.  I have given up on trying to 
run it under vmware.  Sometimes, I use dosbox under 
Linux.  Nothing allows me to run command and conquer
red alert I under Linux.

So, let me start the what do you lose list:

Command and Conquer Red Alert Windows 95 edition by Westwood Associates

Internet Exporer 5 and earlier, maybe 6.

Microsoft Office for Windows 9x.

Blake Stone Aliens of Gold requires the MS-DOS 6.22 or the Windows 9x
version.  It can run on top of Windows 9x.

Wolfenstein 3D has the same problem because it's probably based on the
same underlying engine.  It starts under Freedos, but none of the keys
work.

Warcraft II Battle Net edition requires Windows 95 or higher.  Under NT,
it becomes clear that it isn't designed for it when you have to become
Administrator to get it to run.

Diablo II requires Windows 9x or higher, but it's not designed for NT
either also having the Administrator issue.

...Insert other programs that need Windows 9x or Windows 3.x to work...


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