Sorry Mateusz,- I assumed this was well-known.
I have an Acer Aspire E5-571 laptop which has a quirky BIOS - the IDE
emulation option is specific to the hard drive only and not the CD/DVD
drive. I had though that the GCDROM drive was supposed to enable a SATA
drive, but it didn't and I actually gave up on installing FreeDOS and then
stumbled on the Intel SATA driver which combined with the UIDE driver
enables the CD/DVD drive for a FreeDOS install and installing other
programs.
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 6:34 AM, Mateusz Viste <[email protected]> wrote:
> Sorry, I don't think I have followed this AHCI/SATA issue - do you have
> any reference? An URL to a past mailing list message, or a bug report on
> sourceforge?
>
> Will add it to the wishlist, I just need some reference to attach it to,
> since it doesn't sound self-explanatory as you worded it.
>
> Mateusz
>
>
>
> On 18/05/2015 11:51, Don Flowers wrote:
> > For the wish list has the AHCI/SATA issue been mentioned? I have an Acer
> > which will not access CDROM using GCDROM or any thing else in the
> > FreeDOS repo, but works only with the intel SATA driver first followed
> > by UIDE.
> >
> > On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 5:45 AM, Don Flowers <[email protected]
> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >
> > The wiki article is good as far as it goes, I collected all the
> > pieces of the networking puzzle mentioned in the article, but can't
> > seem to assemble them correctly. My currebn method of file transfer
> > is via USB, and I am experiencing quite a bit of data corruption.
> >
> > I have 3 desktops (one full time FreeDOS) and one other connection
> > available for my laptop PCMCIA. All machines are connected and setup
> > individually, but I am lost on the final client/host configuration.
> >
> > On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 5:28 AM, Mateusz Viste <[email protected]
> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >
> > About networking -- have you looked at the wiki article?
> >
> > http://www.freedos.org/wiki/index.php/Networking_FreeDOS
> >
> > It contains already quite a lot of informations, on many aspects
> > of the
> > DOS networking world.
> >
> > Mateusz
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 18/05/2015 10:52, Don Flowers wrote:
> > > I have a HP Elite 8000 with 12gb RAM, I use XOSL to boot
> Kubuntu 14.04,
> > > Windows 7, Compaq DOS 5.0, MS-DOS 7.10 and FreeDOS. When
> running Compaq
> > > DOS and/or MS-DOS 7.10, I use the native HIMEM and Windows 3.1
> runs fine
> > > in enhanced mode; on FreeDOS even standard mode seems buggy,
> so it is
> > > not necessarily a RAM issue but seems to be (IMHO) some kind
> of kernel
> > > incompatibility.
> > >
> > > As for Wi-Fi, I got it to work on a Compaq Armada 1750 using a
> Proxim
> > > (Orinoco Gold 802.11b PCMCIA card (using WPA), but when we
> switched to
> > > Xfinity service the WPA setup was not compatible with our
> other wireless
> > > devices.
> > >
> > > I personally would like to see an updated step-by-step how to
> on a wired
> > > home network setup for FreeDOS.
> > >
> > > On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 4:25 AM, Rugxulo <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>
> > > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 2:16 AM, Guillem <
> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> > > <mailto:[email protected]
> > <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I've been thinking of dualbooting my Windows PC with
> > FreeDOS,
> > >
> > > Why exactly? Although it's not a totally horrible idea,
> > it's very
> > > tedious and a bit technical. Not worth risking anything
> > important. As
> > > I told one guy recently, make sure you backup all
> > important files
> > > first, and even then, only if you have all your Windows
> > DVD recovery
> > > discs (and product key) nearby.
> > >
> > > What Windows do you run? WinXP? Win7? With the former, do
> > you run it
> > > atop pre-existing FAT or (incompatible) NTFS? I'm not
> > even sure you
> > > can (properly) resize NTFS at all before Vista (without
> > Linux GParted
> > > or whatever). Also, Vista on up upgraded the boot loader,
> > so it's more
> > > complicated to adjust, hence probably needing third-party
> > EasyBCD.
> > >
> > > Native is fun, fast, (sometimes) less buggy, and runs DOS
> as
> > > originally designed. But these days we also have great
> > alternatives
> > > like DOSEMU or VirtualBox or QEMU. These emulations are
> > much easier to
> > > use and less error-prone, albeit no one solution is 100%
> > perfect (not
> > > even native). If your cpu supports VT-X, you'll probably
> > benefit
> > > greatly from using that (e.g. VBox or KVM or similar)
> > instead of raw
> > > booting, esp. for better accuracy and speed.
> > >
> > > The simplest solution (if your PC can boot from USB) is
> > to use RUFUS
> > > to make a bootable jump drive. Heck, you could also use
> > various tools
> > > to make a bootable Linux (presumably with DOSEMU). Even
> > if you're
> > > using an old Pentium 4 (like my old one), you can still
> > boot USB via
> > > PLoP Boot Manager via floppy (or CD or HD).
> > >
> > > > and the only things that are preventing me from doing
> > that right now are the fact that USB serial controllers don't
> > work all the way
> > >
> > > At best, you're probably just going to have the BIOS
> > detect a USB jump
> > > drive as a fixed disk that can't be unplugged/removed
> > (without
> > > rebooting). Bret Johnson did write some nice UHCI-only
> > drivers, but a
> > > lot of machines don't support that, unfortunately.
> > >
> > > > and also that there's apparently no way to use
> > applications that require a sound blaster reliably. Is there any
> > way to make some kind of driver
> > > > that would sit between the application and the actual
> > soundcard (in my case a realtek) and forward what the app is
> > trying to send to the
> > > > soundblaster to the realtek the right way?
> > >
> > > Although it's not native and isn't even a real DOS (no
> > actual FreeDOS
> > > being used), the (portable, SDL-based) DOSBox emulator
> > supports a lot
> > > of graphics and soundcards, mostly for old commercial
> > games. But
> > > you'll need a different host OS for it. (Linux? FreeBSD?
> > Kolibri?)
> > > Believe it or not, this is better than even XP's NTVDM
> > for many (but
> > > not all) games.
> > >
> > > > I'm talking from a user's point of view here. I have
> > never tried developing anything for DOS so I really don't know
> > about the limitations.
> > >
> > > In native DOS? Not sure, not many have tried. Most of us
> > aren't savvy
> > > enough to do something so extremely technical. I mean,
> > one guy did
> > > port SoftMPU (MPU-401 TSR emulator) to DOS, but even that
> > is loosely
> > > based upon DOSBox! :-)
> > >
> > > Like mentioned, there really needed to be a universal API
> > for that
> > > (and some did exist), but it was never popular enough for
> > many to care
> > > hard enough to utilize or fix it. So we have some libs,
> > but nothing
> > > universally useful. Also, lots of old games are hard to
> > find, but they
> > > sometimes do support multiple outputs, even PC speaker.
> > Although even
> > > that isn't always physically available, but it's often
> > better than
> > > nothing!
> > >
> > > > Also would FreeDOS actually run on a PC with 8gb of
> > RAM? That's what this one has, but after the previous message in
> > this topic I'm not so sure.
> > >
> > > I run it just fine on my 6 GB Lenovo desktop. Of course,
> > due to memory
> > > holes, I "only" get (roughly) 2.9 GB free, but even that
> > is "too much"
> > > for some rare software (chokes, dies). But most
> > well-behaved apps
> > > (e.g. DJGPP) either work by default or can be massaged.
> > >
> > > Not sure how well it will work if you're running UEFI
> (CSM?).
> > >
> > > > I guess I would also have to figure out networking. I
> > have no way of using Ethernet because of how this house is set
> up.
> > > > I can either use Wifi or use my phone with USB
> > tethering, which is what I normally do because that PC's network
> > card doesn't work all the way.
> > >
> > > This alone is probably the biggest advantage of emulators
> > (e.g. VBox
> > > or QEMU, both of which I've used lately): easy to setup
> > networking.
> > > You know by default that it will work, unlike native,
> > where you can't
> > > be sure of anything!
> > >
> > > Granted, you mentioned Windows, but it's exactly Windows
> > that doesn't
> > > support DOS well anymore (if at all). So while it seems
> > crazy to use a
> > > software-only x86 emulator atop Windows on x86, sometimes
> > it really is
> > > better than nothing.
> > >
> > > In short: it depends on what you're trying to do, and
> > whether you can
> > > debug your own problems.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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