On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 11:21 PM, dmccunney <dennis.mccun...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 11:26 PM, Ralf Quint <freedos...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The big question is if OpenWatcom continues to be a viable option to be
>> used with FreeDOS. If the official site would be down for good and
>> Jiri's fork doesn't work right, the the pooch is pretty much screwed...
> The pooch arguably *has* been screwed for years.  DOS is a legacy OS
> few folks have any real reason to care about.

Dennis, once again, you're on the wrong mailing list if you're going
to constantly harp on how obsolete and useless DOS is.

> People involved in things like compiler writing will be targeting Windows, 
> Linux,
> and the like.

Windows and Linux are too volatile to rely upon. Sure, they're
popular, but everything changes very quickly, and many compilers have
broken or been abandoned due to upstream failures. Don't pretend that
using a "modern" OS is somehow a panacea to common technical (and
political) problems.

The fact that "nobody" (according to you, although I can name a few
non-commercial ones) targets DOS is irrelevant to us. We can't make
anybody do anything. It's here if they want it (free, stable,
well-documented). If not, good luck, go somewhere else.

> Even the embedded market is being taken over by things like 32
> ARM CPUs without the "real mode" issues involved in systems running 16
> bit Intel architectures and the bewildering variety of memory models
> DOS programmers had to deal with.

What are you referring to, the kernel? Sure, that uses 16-bit mode
because there's no major incentive to switch. Lots of other things are
using 32-bit flat model (since decades!), e.g. DJGPP and OpenWatcom.

Don't tell me that (optional) 16-bit support prevents anybody from
doing anything. We've had both for a long time, much longer than ARM
has been popular. Don't pretend that ARM is superior, it is definitely
not! I have nothing against it, but seriously, x86 has much more
worthwhile legacy that still works. Why throw away what already

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