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On 11/19/2010 07:49 AM, Sumit Bose wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 05:27:13PM -0500, Dmitri Pal wrote:
>> Adam Young wrote:
>>> On 11/18/2010 04:02 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
>>> On 11/18/2010 09:55 AM, Dmitri Pal wrote:
>>>  
>>>>>> Steve can you summarize where we are and what we agreed to,
>>> please, and
>>>>>> identify the questions that we need to answer.
>>>>>>     
>>>
>>> Simo, Adam and I had a long discussion on IRC regarding the time rules
>>> today (complete log attached).
>>>
>>> The short version is that we're going to continue (mostly) with the
>>> current grammar for the time rules, with a few changes.
>>>
>>> 1) We need to replace week-of-the-month with day-of-the-septet. This day
>>> should not be a range or multi-valued to eliminate confusion
>>> 2) We need to replace the time range with a duration
>>> 3) We should add startDate and endDate as attributes on the HBAC object
>>> (separate from the accessTime). I propose these should be in LDAP
>>> generalizedTime so that it's possible to construct filters around them.
>>> This effectively sets the beginning and end of a periodic schedule.
>>>  
>>>
>>>> OK, just please stop calling it septet.  I think Drums, Bass, Piano,
>>> 2 Saxes,  Trumpet,  Trombone Jazz combo when I hear that.  It isl ike
>>> octet versus byte....it means the same thing, and just annoys people.
>>>
>>>> What you really want is to call it week-of-the-month as opposed to
>>> week.  I realize that is more verbose, but we don't sound like
>>> smarty-pants.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I've drawn up a new grammar definition and published it to the SSSD wiki
>>> (not currently linked from anywhere):
>>> https://fedorahosted.org/sssd/wiki/HBAC_Grammar
>>>
>>> Please review and give feedback.
>>>
>>>
>> I thought that first septet is the first seven days of the month based
>> on earlier mails from Steven. Is this a true statement?
>> The whole issue started with ambiguity of the notion of the "N-th week"
>> of the month.
>> What is it the week-of-the-month? Is it first seven day regardless what
>> day of the week is the first day of the month (this is what I thought a
>> septet is) or fist full week from Monday to Sunday or from Sunday to
>> Saturday, or it is the first usually partial week? This is the ambiguity
>> that we want to avoid!
>>
>> If the septet is what I think it is then we can't name it the
>> week-of-the-month and IMO septet is a good term here. However then there
>> is a bug in grammar as septet can be only 1-5 not 1-6.
>>
> 
> if I understand the septets correctly the 5th septet will cover days
> 29-35. When will you need the 6th?
> 

Dmitri is correct. That was a typo on my part. I've fixed that on the
wiki page now.

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