On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 05:27:13PM -0500, Dmitri Pal wrote:
> Adam Young wrote:
> > On 11/18/2010 04:02 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> > On 11/18/2010 09:55 AM, Dmitri Pal wrote:
> >  
> > >>> Steve can you summarize where we are and what we agreed to,
> > please, and
> > >>> identify the questions that we need to answer.
> > >>>     
> >
> > Simo, Adam and I had a long discussion on IRC regarding the time rules
> > today (complete log attached).
> >
> > The short version is that we're going to continue (mostly) with the
> > current grammar for the time rules, with a few changes.
> >
> > 1) We need to replace week-of-the-month with day-of-the-septet. This day
> > should not be a range or multi-valued to eliminate confusion
> > 2) We need to replace the time range with a duration
> > 3) We should add startDate and endDate as attributes on the HBAC object
> > (separate from the accessTime). I propose these should be in LDAP
> > generalizedTime so that it's possible to construct filters around them.
> > This effectively sets the beginning and end of a periodic schedule.
> >  
> >
> > > OK, just please stop calling it septet.  I think Drums, Bass, Piano,
> > 2 Saxes,  Trumpet,  Trombone Jazz combo when I hear that.  It isl ike
> > octet versus byte....it means the same thing, and just annoys people.
> >
> > > What you really want is to call it week-of-the-month as opposed to
> > week.  I realize that is more verbose, but we don't sound like
> > smarty-pants.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I've drawn up a new grammar definition and published it to the SSSD wiki
> > (not currently linked from anywhere):
> > https://fedorahosted.org/sssd/wiki/HBAC_Grammar
> >
> > Please review and give feedback.
> >
> >
> I thought that first septet is the first seven days of the month based
> on earlier mails from Steven. Is this a true statement?
> The whole issue started with ambiguity of the notion of the "N-th week"
> of the month.
> What is it the week-of-the-month? Is it first seven day regardless what
> day of the week is the first day of the month (this is what I thought a
> septet is) or fist full week from Monday to Sunday or from Sunday to
> Saturday, or it is the first usually partial week? This is the ambiguity
> that we want to avoid!
> 
> If the septet is what I think it is then we can't name it the
> week-of-the-month and IMO septet is a good term here. However then there
> is a bug in grammar as septet can be only 1-5 not 1-6.
> 

if I understand the septets correctly the 5th septet will cover days
29-35. When will you need the 6th?

bye,
Sumit

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> Dmitri Pal
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