On 14 Sep 2011, at 14:26, [email protected] wrote:

> Hi Arran,
> 
> On Tue, 13 Sep 2011, Arran Cudbard-Bell wrote:
> 
>> [...] 
>> No. It's SQL, 
> 
> I didn't question it's SQL, I just said that knowing 
> SQL all by itself is not enough.

Run the server with no modules, what type of packet does it return?

Run the server with the PAP module enabled and a clean SQL schema what does it 
return?

With that, a knowledge of SQL, and the location of the config file you have 
everything you need to know.

Did any of that require a list post? No..

Posting to the list is not an alternative to RTFM or RTFW (in this case).

>> you can alter the query so that it only returns 'enabled' users.
> 
> If you talk about altering queries, you assume that someone also has
> knowledge about the data model (table and column names, in particular).

rlm_sql doesn't care about column names, it just deals with indexes. The SQL 
used to get the values for those indexes is completely arbitrary, and 
implementation specific.

>> It has nothing to do with FreeRADIUS,
> 
> Are you saying that table and column names are the same *in every* SQL-based
> RADIUS implementation? (I doubt that tables and columns share the same names
> accross different RADIUS implementations).

rlm_sql doesn't care about column names, it just deals with indexes. The SQL 
used to get the values for those indexes is completely arbitrary, and 
implementation specific.

> 
>> [...] 
>> The point of the list is to help users who are stuck with a particular 
>> question or concept. Not for those who are too lazy to try and figure things 
>> out themselves.
> 
> How do you really *know* the OP was "too lazy"? Maybe the documentation
> wasn't understood (but in this case the OP could have mentioned that in his
> post). IMHO, the OP made one big mistake: not pointing out clearly his own
> effort. On the other hand, it's also not right to infer that someone is too
> lazy just because he hasn't mentioned whether he has tried anything by
> himself.

I'm not going to waste my time debating this with you. The phrasing the OP used 
was completely inappropriate for a volunteer based support list, end of story. 

I have nothing against the OP, in fact if you'd checked, you'd see that i've 
answered a number of his other questions... So why you felt the need to step in 
and intervene is beyond me. 

-Arran


Arran Cudbard-Bell
[email protected]

RADIUS - Waging war on ignorance and apathy one Access-Challenge at a time.


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