schrieb Daniel Mundall on 2013-03-11 03:26: > 1. From what I understand they are in favor of P25 type systems that > they consider to be secure, but in reality are more exploited than > something like codec2 (with no encryption, but retentively unknown > about). Which doesn't make a whole lot of sense if you think about it. > 2. I remember hearing something about this a while ago, and from what I > remember short of encrypting anything, any ham /could /make his own > standard that would be just as good as encryption, provided only that > there is a paragraph or something on the internet about this /standard. > /Now I could be wrong, but it was said that this was totally legal. If > so, there would not be a reason to address the encryption thing.
Both boild down IMO to "security by obscurity", which is of course no security at all. There are numerous examples, one that comes to my mind first ist A5/1 from GSM, which is/was a trade secret, which of course did not make it a good algorithm. It been broken for several years ago. Here in Austria we have to have "open language", which includes the scenario "it is documented somewhere". This again leads to gray area and makes D-STAR possible :-( Proper encryption uses a well known algorithm, that withstands well forged attacks with all information except the key. Same for signatures. Let's get this right one and for all times. No more neither fish nor fowl solutions. First steps: *) well understanding of the problem *) well understanding of possible solutions *) common language/terminology Regards Patrick -- Engineers motto: cheap, good, fast: choose any two Patrick Strasser <patrick at wirklich priv at> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Symantec Endpoint Protection 12 positioned as A LEADER in The Forrester Wave(TM): Endpoint Security, Q1 2013 and "remains a good choice" in the endpoint security space. For insight on selecting the right partner to tackle endpoint security challenges, access the full report. http://p.sf.net/sfu/symantec-dev2dev _______________________________________________ Freetel-codec2 mailing list Freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freetel-codec2