Thanks David for the news.
One question: how high can the Pi transmitter go in frequency?
Our 70 cm band is pretty crowded, but the 23 cm band and 2305-2400 MHz bands 
are underutilized and we want to make use of them. The Pi/RTL system is a good 
candidate because of price.

Adrian

On August 9, 2020 8:14:52 AM UTC, David Rowe <da...@rowetel.com> wrote:
>Hi Adrian,
>
>You data mode (and HNAP) sound pretty cool.  Thanks, I enjoyed the SDRA
>HNAP talk by Lukas, that's quite a sophisticated system.
>
>-/-
>
>A couple of recent developments in this area by Bill, VK5DSP, and
>myself:
>
>1/ We have ported the 4FSK/LLR/LDPC code work to C in this PR
>
>  https://github.com/drowe67/codec2/pull/136
>
>Some command line examples down the bottom, e.g. 5 bits/s with a MDS of
>-160dBm (!), and 100 bit/s across-town links on 25uW (!!):
>
>  http://www.rowetel.com/?p=7273
>
>You can scale to any bit rate you like of course, if you have the link
>margin.
>
>The 4FSK/LLR/OFDM work has been carefully developed to hit the
>theoretical rate limits, which I understand are about Eb/No=7dB
>(information bits) for 4FSK.  Pls correct me if I'm not explaining this
>correctly Bill!
>
>2/ The RPi/RTLSDR based system is moving along, yesterday we managed to
>sent a few packets over a 10km non-LOS (135dBm loss) link on 145.5 MHz
>at 5000 bits/s, using 13dBm Tx power.  Current code/status here:
>
>  https://github.com/drowe67/pirip
>
>3/ Steve and I have also been work on the HF data modes.  We have
>initial versions of 3 new OFDM/LDPC data modes running in C, between 10
>and -5dB SNR.  Next step is some tuning and QAM16.  That modem might
>also run OK at higher rates on VHF and above, but we haven't tried it.
>
>Cheers,
>David
>
>
>
>On 9/8/20 3:57 pm, Adrian Musceac wrote:
>> Hi David,
>> 
>> I've watched with interest your recent foray into FreeDV data
>transmission.
>> There's a new and interesting project called HNAP (https://hnap.de )
>> which has the same goals (long distance IP links). The project is
>well
>> described in this year's SDRA talk by Lukas O.
>> Inspired by both your project and theirs, I wrote a 4FSK data mode
>which
>> has the following characteristics:
>> 
>> - 100 kbaud, 1/2 convolutional code
>> - fits in a 200 kHz channel on the 70 cm and 23 cm bands (IARU region
>1
>> allocations)
>> - full duplex
>> - works with 50 watt FM amplifiers
>> - good SNR performance, 20 km point to point access distance tested
>with
>> small non-directional antennas
>> - carries layer 2 (Ethernet) frames
>> 
>> Do you have anything planned for VHF as well?
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Adrian
>> 
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