Hello Marcos,
Talk about translating I could translate the docs to Swedish. Not sure
there is any need for it but considering my prim language since birth
been swedish and I now live in the States this shouldn't be a big
problem ;P

MRAW> On 30 Nov 2001, Nick Burrett wrote:

MRAW> -------------------8<snip,snip,snip>8-------------------
>> 
>> Since this announcement, there seems to be several people suddenly offering
>> their services to enhance this project.
>> 
>> I'm just wondering why none of this voluntary work was never offered
>> prior to Idaya announcing a non-free version of FreeVSD ?
>> 
>> Curiously, 

MRAW> The short answer, nick, is that Idaya failed to understand
MRAW> the open source community. Accent on _community_

MRAW> Even though FreeVSD used the GPL license, Idaya forgot that
MRAW> a community requires much more. Developers, document
MRAW> writers, even testers and users need to feel that they are a
MRAW> vital part of the community.

MRAW> I can see myself translating to Spanish some of webmin's
MRAW> manuals whith no financial gain for me (the same way that
MRAW> Joe cooper not only wrote the manual for free, but will
MRAW> release the pdf's for free!). But I can not see myself doing
MRAW> the same kind of job with FreeVSD, because I feel that I'm
MRAW> doing it *for* Idaya, not *with* them or *for the
MRAW> community*.

MRAW> If you can't see this, if you don't understand this... well,
MRAW> I really don't know how to explain it. 

MRAW> Cheers!
MRAW> Marcos

MRAW> ps: you can see below some of Dave's reasons... but, again,
MRAW> I think, no, let me say, I know that the main problem for
MRAW> many of the developers/programmers was the lack of a feeling
MRAW> of a community project. It was never, never clear what was
MRAW> the direction that Idaya wanted to go. That could be OK for
MRAW> business.. it's not OK for the open source community. 

MRAW> 'nough said ;)



MRAW> On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, Dave Cost wrote:

>> Tired of waiting for idaya's 1.4.10 packages, the new kernel, the new skels
>> etc etc.... and reading the provsd pricing model (ouch!) i took the coffe
MRAW> -------------------8<snip,snip,snip>8-------------------
>> Why? Because I can't expect more help from idaya. They're going commercial.
>> FreeVSD will slowly die or at least updates/new features will come at much
>> lower rate and much later than in provsd. They're not well funded and they
>> need cash (and quick I would add). They may not be around next year.
>> 
MRAW> -------------------8<snip,snip,snip>8-------------------
>> 
>> I'm suggesdting that we create a new project that goes in parallel with
>> FreeVSD. If idaya and us keep collaboration I would be more than happy. If
>> not, we can move on our way.

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