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F R E N D Z of martian
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Cool
Nice one Magna
Yep I do certainly agree with some of the comments you have replied with
Intelligence is also a moot point and the definition of which is almost the
whole reason for my first reply.
As you say intelligence is Awareness, Awareness of our needs , others needs
and our environment
Man as a rule is Aware of what he, on a personal basis needs, well actually
what he wants, Man also
seems to always want more than he needs.
Awareness can only come from understanding, and we need to understand the
animal aspect of our nature, that which fucks fights and feeds
Because it is a Very Very important part of our nature and who we are, I
personally feel that as Humans we owe it to our selves to understand our
Animal instincts, as well as our Higher Selves. Most people allow the
lesser, Animal part to run their lives.
Also Knowledge itself is irrelevant almost as without UNDERSTANDING it is
worthless.
I think man would be better placed in trying to understand his existence
rathe than accumulate the knowledge without the understanding
, A knowledgable man is never Wise.
I don't see genetic science as developing our intelligence,, we will still
have the same thought processes, It would probably only increase our feeling
of Superiority which is one of our downfalls currently.
Even if science developed a method for increasing awareness both psychic and
empathic, People would still abuse them, which is why Spiritual paths are so
hard for so many.
If we don't earn our existence we don't value it, Well 90% of the population
anyway.
Even if we where to advance ourselves to a much higher state of being
scientifically, not that much would change, Man would still keep on going
trying to improve as it sees it, He will never be happy because he cannot
ACCEpt things the way they are, He cannot accept himself the way he is.
Personally I believ we are Perfect the way we are, The only thing that a lot
of us can change is our Perception of who we are and how we live our lives.
We are all individuals yet still connected, this individuality , ie, sense
of self is that which keeps people closed and fighting and scared.
Because people don't reaslise the connections that are inherent in
everything.
If they could change their perceptions to realise t both their
seperateness and connection they would find it a lot harder to do the Mean,
Cruel and self gain
Processes that we are all currently involved in.
Evolution is currently accelerating, which is why we have such an interest
in NEW AGE crap,
Evolution works at a rate which is accelerating and has been since the
beginning of the concept.
What the hell are we in such a rush for anyway
Man will get to the end, and then probably realise that the destination was
unimportant, as the Journey is the only part of it which counts,
For that is where the experience of living applies. And we all owe it to our
selves to experience Life, for all its joys and heartaches and pain and
suffering,
For that is its true beauty. The more we rush the less we experience.
Oops off on a bit of a ramble
Doh
PS Man also includes Woman , I have mainly used a male perspective for that
is the one that works best for me.
Live in Peace and Balance
Neil C
=)
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From: Magna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 03, 1999 11:11 AM
To: multiple recipients of
Subject: Re: Long healthy life.
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F R E N D Z of martian
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Hi Neil,
I enjoyed your comments. I have some comments.
> Humans are meant to be the most intelligent animals on the
planet,
> Yet we are the most destructive, We are meant to be at the
top of the food
> chain, No predators
We may well be the most intelligent on the planet. In the
universe for all I
know, but the fact we have war, famine, potential population
boom, etc etc
and for the most part people are living miserable lives full
of fear,
repression etc says to me we are NOT intelligent enough and
at our current
levels of intelligence we are gonna kill ourselves.
I would like to clarify what intelligence means to me - as
well as the
ability to have greater cognitive abilities - it also
includes awareness,
perception and understanding.
> Genetics is our way of improving ourselves, We are already
Perfect, there
is
> a reason we are the
> Way we are. We would be a lot better off accepting this
and then trying to
> improve our quality of life
> And the lives of those around us.
Ummm - this is a tricky one. In one sense we are perfect,
you are right.
However so were the one-celled creatures that were living in
the primordial
soup 'perfect'. We are an evolving process. We also a point
where we can
start to direct and possibly accelerate that evolution. In
order for us to
be able to improve our quality of life and that of those
around us we need
more awareness. Anything that can aid us to increase this I
am all for. Be
it meditation, neurotechnologies, genetics, drugs, whatever.
We need to move
fast. People are not, from what I see, just gonna suddenly
see their inate
perfection and start living harmoniously. Technologies, such
as genetics,
offer a possibility for creating a more intelligent human
being who is
capable of living more harmoniously. Extended lifespan would
make people
think a little more about the mess they are creating now -
cause its gonna
be them that has to live with the consequences.
> That will lead to even more destructive technologies,
beacause the Animal
> aspect of Man has been abused.
> What other animals are as destructive as we are for its
own sake.
> Do you think that lesser animals also wish for greater
things, no they
> ACCEPT what they have and make the most of it,
I disagree. We are not a lesser animal anymore - blissfully
accepting what
we are without question. We evolved this ability to
self-reflect, to
manipulate time, to compare, to judge etc etc. We cannot go
back to the
stage in evolution we were at before this. We can only move
forward. To get
to the stage where we can be in the here and now, accepting
the way it is
with AWARENESS (which the animals do not have) requires all
the help we can
get.
> Why can we not accept ourselves and our environment the
way it is, and
learn
> to live in tune with it and each other.
Bloody good question!! Searching for the answer to this one
has led me to
some strange places.
> To be honest I feel the reason is Fear, people are afraid
to let go.
I agree.
Good hearing from you Neil.
Magna
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