On Nov 9, 2008, at 12:09 AM, Orlando Leibovitz wrote:
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In my opinion this is not a marriage issue, it is a civil rights issue.

And there you have the problem in a nutshell. "Gay marriage" confounds the two.

One the one hand, the word "marriage" creates considerable angst on gay issues within the various religions. The recent Anglican/Episcopal split was largely over gay marriage and gay bishops. This is a complex issue where religions have to confront difficult problems within themselves. And definitely a church/state boundary.

On the other hand, gay civil rights are clear: they are being violated and the strictly civil rights have to be granted immediately. "Civil union", however, may be a distasteful term to the gay community.

Most of silicon valley had to deal with this within their corporate laws. They all grant gay civil rights by now. They simply had to change the concept of "partner" and insurance, spousal rights and so on were easily solved. I don't believe religions are concerned about this solution. As far as I know, the government does not object, and even allows for joint tax filing.

I wonder if the word "marriage" were taken out of the equation, would it at least help obtain civil rights for gay couples?

    -- Owen


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