I would encourage all to drill down into the site a bit. OK, perhaps "debate" is not an appropriate name for the potential of the tool. I see it as yet another way, another Web 2.0+ tool, to introduce, link and present data in (a) a logical progression; (b) in a collaborative manner and (c) a remotely editable tool. A visual wiki, if you will.
There are others of similar sort: - http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page - http://www.mindmeister.com/ - http://cmap.ihmc.us/ -tj On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Victoria Hughes <[email protected]>wrote: > Thank you Merle. > Your point about the old form of problem-solving, usually predicated > on a win-lose assumption; and the new form - on a win-win - brings up > something that seems important to discuss here at the Complex; identity as > exhibited through attitude and action. > How do we want to exchange information and ideas? > We so often talk about, and often act, from new ways of doing > things. > 'Dialogue' is perhaps more useful, both as ultimately more viable > and effective, and as an attitude we want to identify with. > This issue also slides toward the metaphoric concept of emergence: a > number of diverse elements from whose actions together something altogether > new emerges. That's what we sure have, a number of diverse elements, like it > or not. Classic 'debating', from what I have seen in various academic > arenas, tends to lean toward wit and arrogance, rather than an actual > conversation. Not actions together with others, actions against others. > Posturing, rather than a substantive exchange of ideas. > We are all about substantive idea exchange, far as I can see. > > I do appreciate that Tom is out there looking for solutions, though. > What else you got, Tom? > > Tory > > On Jul 6, 2009, at 1:08 PM, Merle Lefkoff wrote: > > Tom, >> >> The derivation of the word "debate" is the Latin word "battere" (pound, >> beat, hit). The derivation of the word "dialogue" is from the Greek >> "dialogos." "Dia" can mean "through", and "logos" is "the word." The point >> here is that debate is an old form of working through problems (although >> still with us like a vestigial tail) and ratchets up confrontation to a >> win-lose dance. Dialogue seeks to open space for creative, non-bifurcated >> thinking, that leads to better outcomes on contentious issues. I'd hate to >> see debate as a process reinforced on the Internet. >> >> Merle >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Tom Johnson wrote: >> >>> An interesting too that "might" assist some of our discussion. >>> >>> http://debategraph.org/ >>> >>> -tj >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> ============================================================ >>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >>> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org >>> >> >> >> ============================================================ >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org >> >> > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > -- ========================================== J. T. Johnson Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USA www.analyticjournalism.com 505.577.6482(c) 505.473.9646(h) http://www.jtjohnson.com [email protected] "Be Your Own Publisher" http://indiepubwest.com ==========================================
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