Tom During the last days I have been trying to imagine what could emerge from OPEN platform without any development but containing C/C++, Java, Perl, Python, tcl, Ruby, and PHP development environment (for example) and SQL support. I suppose It couldn't be totally opened because of the “Cyber Bandits”, but exclude them and suppose that each one has the same privileges and can modify, delete and create. Would it be possible without rules? I have been wondering how it would be the behavior of the people. Crews of developers creating together, sniffers trying to rob ideas, well trained guys working alone, less trained guys working alone ... Download here Wilson's Sociobiology if you want... Of course depending on the group itself, behavior, process and result will be so different. What will prevail?. Competence?, sharing?. What are they looking for?. It would be an interesting experiment to do in different populations.
Alfredo 2009/7/6 Tom Johnson <[email protected]> > I would encourage all to drill down into the site a bit. OK, perhaps > "debate" is not an appropriate name for the potential of the tool. I see it > as yet another way, another Web 2.0+ tool, to introduce, link and present > data in (a) a logical progression; (b) in a collaborative manner and (c) a > remotely editable tool. A visual wiki, if you will. > > There are others of similar sort: > > - http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page > - http://www.mindmeister.com/ > - http://cmap.ihmc.us/ > > -tj > > > On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Victoria Hughes > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Thank you Merle. >> Your point about the old form of problem-solving, usually >> predicated on a win-lose assumption; and the new form - on a win-win - >> brings up something that seems important to discuss here at the Complex; >> identity as exhibited through attitude and action. >> How do we want to exchange information and ideas? >> We so often talk about, and often act, from new ways of doing >> things. >> 'Dialogue' is perhaps more useful, both as ultimately more viable >> and effective, and as an attitude we want to identify with. >> This issue also slides toward the metaphoric concept of emergence: >> a number of diverse elements from whose actions together something >> altogether new emerges. That's what we sure have, a number of diverse >> elements, like it or not. Classic 'debating', from what I have seen in >> various academic arenas, tends to lean toward wit and arrogance, rather than >> an actual conversation. Not actions together with others, actions against >> others. Posturing, rather than a substantive exchange of ideas. >> We are all about substantive idea exchange, far as I can see. >> >> I do appreciate that Tom is out there looking for solutions, >> though. What else you got, Tom? >> >> Tory >> >> On Jul 6, 2009, at 1:08 PM, Merle Lefkoff wrote: >> >> Tom, >>> >>> The derivation of the word "debate" is the Latin word "battere" (pound, >>> beat, hit). The derivation of the word "dialogue" is from the Greek >>> "dialogos." "Dia" can mean "through", and "logos" is "the word." The point >>> here is that debate is an old form of working through problems (although >>> still with us like a vestigial tail) and ratchets up confrontation to a >>> win-lose dance. Dialogue seeks to open space for creative, non-bifurcated >>> thinking, that leads to better outcomes on contentious issues. I'd hate to >>> see debate as a process reinforced on the Internet. >>> >>> Merle >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Tom Johnson wrote: >>> >>>> An interesting too that "might" assist some of our discussion. >>>> >>>> http://debategraph.org/ >>>> >>>> -tj >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> ============================================================ >>>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>>> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >>>> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org >>>> >>> >>> >>> ============================================================ >>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >>> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org >>> >>> >> >> ============================================================ >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org >> > > > > -- > ========================================== > J. T. Johnson > Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USA > www.analyticjournalism.com > 505.577.6482(c) 505.473.9646(h) > http://www.jtjohnson.com [email protected] > > "Be Your Own Publisher" > http://indiepubwest.com > ========================================== > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org >
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