I'm curious, Jochen: what do you mean by "solving the problem of"
emergence?  Understanding it?  Will never happen -- everybody has their own
'correct' working definition of "emergence".  Define it?  Ditto. Recognizing
it?  Ditto.

On the other hand, though, the image of a bunch of unemployed complexity
scientists is oddly compelling...

--Doug

On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Jochen Fromm <[email protected]> wrote:

> Even if you have solved the problem of emergence
> (was there any?) and all problems related to it,
> are you sure that people want it to be solved?
> 90% of papers on complexity and social simulation
> explicitly refer to emergence, i.e. emergent
> processes, properties, dynamics, and patterns.
> If you have indeed solved everything related to
> emergence, everyone else working in complexity
> science would become jobless immediately..
>
> By the way did you notice that Libya's president
> Gaddafi proposed the UN to abolish and dismantle
> Switzerland? Somehow you have got to like this
> eccentric behavior.. http://is.gd/2VI3H
>
> -J.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: Russ Abbott
> To: [email protected] ; The Friday Morning Applied Complexity
> Coffee Group
> Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 10:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] emergence
>
>
> Do you mean Bedau and Humphreys?  Also, I hope you read my paper, "The
> reductionist blind spot." As I said I've solved the problem of emergence.
> It's no longer the mystery Bedau and Humphreys make it out to be.
> Consequently the papers in their book are fairly obsolete.  Of course you
> will make up your own minds about that. But at least give yourself the
> chance to reach that conclusion.
>
> -- Russ
>
>
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