LOL. Yeah, I made it sound a lot more cut and dry then it probably
actually is. Even in software there copyright can apply to L&F. There
was a famous case in the 80s between Borland and umm.. Lotus (?) about
the design of the spreadsheet interface. And then of course you get
the fucking Walt Disney corporation involved and all bets are off. So
just don't come up with some Mickey Mouse piece of code, ok Hugh?
On Oct 3, 2009, at 7:52 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:
WTFDIK, but, werent there some cases recently where somebody
followed the outline and sequence of topics in another person's book
and got skinned for it? Breach of ethics, only? Or did they
actually have to settle?
Nick
Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology,
Clark University ([email protected])
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
----- Original Message -----
From: Miles Parker
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Sent: 10/3/2009 8:07:39 PM
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Publishing Agreements (was "More mumbo-jumbo")
IANAL of course, but in general this situation is no different form
one where ay someone has an idea, tells it to someone else, and that
someone else writes a book about it. Ideas can't be copyrighted but
software can; and implementations of ideas can be patented. (Yuck,
though..) Am I right folks? By default the copyright is with the
actual author, i.e. in this case the programer, unless there is some
specific agreement otherwise. But that's just the default situation;
if that's not what you want then you guys need to come up with an
agreement that specifies that you share copyright and then make sure
that the code has the appropriate notices. That should be really
straightforward.
On Oct 3, 2009, at 6:27 PM, Hugh Trenchard wrote:
Hi Robert. I subscribe to the FRIAM listserv, and have seen your
note here.
I'm wondering what the law is regarding the sharing of intellectual
property where one person establishes the general rules for a
computer simulation and then takes those rules to a programmer who
then creates a specific program based on your rules. Do you both
share in the resulting simulation, or can the programmer argue the
simulation is his/hers? I am in a situation where I have
established the general rules for a simulation, and another fellow
has created the actual sim - so am curious to know how we should go
about claiming our respective intellectual property rights
(hopefully they are shared).
Thanks and would be grateful if you could run this by Dr Winchell.
Hugh Trenchard
Victoria
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Cordingley
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Publishing Agreements (was "More mumbo-jumbo")
For those nearby, don't forget the sfComplex Meeting on
Intellectual Property is next Tuesday, October 6, 2009 2:00 pm to
4:00 pm (seehttp://sfcomplex.org/wordpress/2009/09/intel_property#more-3032
for details). I can try to get Bruce to answer a few questions
like these if it's too far for you. Email me your question (50
words or less) and I'll see what I can do.
Thanks,
Robert C
ERIC P. CHARLES wrote:
Interestingly,
Most journals I interact with no longer have paper options for
this sort of thing. All you do is click on a link that says "I
agree". I have wondered how enforceable any such agreement is, and
what the publisher would do if I insisted on a paper transaction
in which I could do things like write in clauses. Has anyone had
experience with these issues?
Eric
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