LOL, and thanks for these responses. Yes, my current arrangement is quite
loose, and being rather naive, I haven't thought it to be a problem until it
occurred to me my co-hort could be off and marketing the sim without me knowing
about it, possibly even to the Walt Disney corp.
Lesson taken, I'd better get a clear agreement happening and/or for him to
grant me a licence to the computer code. Does anyone happen to have a good
form document precedent for such a licence?
Hugh
----- Original Message -----
From: Miles Parker
To: [email protected] ; The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee
Group
Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Publishing Agreements (was "More mumbo-jumbo")
LOL. Yeah, I made it sound a lot more cut and dry then it probably actually
is. Even in software there copyright can apply to L&F. There was a famous case
in the 80s between Borland and umm.. Lotus (?) about the design of the
spreadsheet interface. And then of course you get the fucking Walt Disney
corporation involved and all bets are off. So just don't come up with some
Mickey Mouse piece of code, ok Hugh?
On Oct 3, 2009, at 7:52 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:
WTFDIK, but, werent there some cases recently where somebody followed the
outline and sequence of topics in another person's book and got skinned for it?
Breach of ethics, only? Or did they actually have to settle?
Nick
Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology,
Clark University ([email protected])
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
----- Original Message -----
From: Miles Parker
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Sent: 10/3/2009 8:07:39 PM
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Publishing Agreements (was "More mumbo-jumbo")
IANAL of course, but in general this situation is no different form one
where ay someone has an idea, tells it to someone else, and that someone else
writes a book about it. Ideas can't be copyrighted but software can; and
implementations of ideas can be patented. (Yuck, though..) Am I right folks? By
default the copyright is with the actual author, i.e. in this case the
programer, unless there is some specific agreement otherwise. But that's just
the default situation; if that's not what you want then you guys need to come
up with an agreement that specifies that you share copyright and then make sure
that the code has the appropriate notices. That should be really
straightforward.
On Oct 3, 2009, at 6:27 PM, Hugh Trenchard wrote:
Hi Robert. I subscribe to the FRIAM listserv, and have seen your note
here.
I'm wondering what the law is regarding the sharing of intellectual
property where one person establishes the general rules for a computer
simulation and then takes those rules to a programmer who then creates a
specific program based on your rules. Do you both share in the resulting
simulation, or can the programmer argue the simulation is his/hers? I am in a
situation where I have established the general rules for a simulation, and
another fellow has created the actual sim - so am curious to know how we should
go about claiming our respective intellectual property rights (hopefully they
are shared).
Thanks and would be grateful if you could run this by Dr Winchell.
Hugh Trenchard
Victoria
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Cordingley
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Publishing Agreements (was "More mumbo-jumbo")
For those nearby, don't forget the sfComplex Meeting on Intellectual
Property is next Tuesday, October 6, 2009 2:00 pm to 4:00 pm
(seehttp://sfcomplex.org/wordpress/2009/09/intel_property#more-3032 for
details). I can try to get Bruce to answer a few questions like these if it's
too far for you. Email me your question (50 words or less) and I'll see what I
can do.
Thanks,
Robert C
ERIC P. CHARLES wrote:
Interestingly,
Most journals I interact with no longer have paper options for this
sort of thing. All you do is click on a link that says "I agree". I have
wondered how enforceable any such agreement is, and what the publisher would do
if I insisted on a paper transaction in which I could do things like write in
clauses. Has anyone had experience with these issues?
Eric
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