Crikers, Russell, I have NO idea. I was raised with a serious case of frog-worship, and so when the publisher came to me and offered me 1000 dollars for the french rights, I was tickled silly.
The whole thing got sillier and sillier. In the first press run they absent mindedly left my name off the book. So somebody went through and pasted in my name on the cover and on the title page of every copy. I felt so sorry for them, I took a bunch of those as my author's copies. Still have them, would like one? Comportement des Oiseaux du Jardin. With a hand pasted cover! Collectors' item. Think what it will be worth when I croak. N Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University ([email protected]) http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > [Original Message] > From: russell standish <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>; The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[email protected]> > Date: 10/4/2009 9:18:43 PM > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Publishing Agreements (was "More mumbo-jumbo") > > My book got translated into Swedish by Lennart Nilsson. We only have a > very loose "gentleman's agreement", but basically my understanding is > that I have granted him a license to do the translation and sell the > resulting work, in exchange for a royalty, but that he actually owns > the copyright on the Swedish translation. > > So Nick, could you, in principle, prevent the release of your French > version under a Creative Commons License? Could you actually demand > that it take place? That would be good test of whether you own the > copyright. > > Cheers > > On Sat, Oct 03, 2009 at 09:58:28PM -0600, Nicholas Thompson wrote: > > One of my books was translated into french; I got royalties, and I think I own the copyright! > > > > n > > > > Nicholas S. Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, > > Clark University ([email protected]) > > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Russ Abbott > > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > > Sent: 10/3/2009 9:37:28 PM > > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Publishing Agreements (was "More mumbo-jumbo") > > > > > > Why is it--if it is--that if I write rules and you translate them into software you own the software and are not violating my copyright ownership of the (expression of the) rules, whereas if you translate them into French you don't own the rights to the French version? > > > > -- Russ Abbott > > _____________________________________________ > > Professor, Computer Science > > California State University, Los Angeles > > Cell phone: 310-621-3805 > > o Check out my blog at http://russabbott.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 8:30 PM, Patrick Reilly <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I will add that a Creative Commons license approach might be of interest to this community. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > On Oct 3, 2009, at 20:23, Gary Schiltz <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Of course, all these arguments are moot with open source licenses. But then, I wonder how many people actually make money with open source. I'm on the fence with regards to the whole open source movement. Opinions? > > > > ;; Gary > > > > > > On Oct 3, 2009, at 10:24 PM, russell standish wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 03, 2009 at 07:07:00PM -0700, Miles Parker wrote: > > > > > > IANAL of course, but in general this situation is no different form one > > where ay someone has an idea, tells it to someone else, and that someone > > else writes a book about it. Ideas can't be copyrighted but software can; > > and implementations of ideas can be patented. (Yuck, though..) Am I right > > > > > > No - only the ideas can be patented. The whole software patent brouha > > revolves around people patenting fairly obvious software algorithms > > for marginally novel uses. But it is not the software itself that is > > patented - if I write a piece of software that implements someone > > patented algorithm, then I am potentially infringing that patent, > > regardless of whether I even know the patent existed. > > > > > > folks? By default the copyright is with the actual author, i.e. in this > > case the programer, unless there is some specific agreement otherwise. But > > that's just the default situation; if that's not what you want then you > > guys need to come up with an agreement that specifies that you share > > copyright and then make sure that the code has the appropriate notices. > > That should be really straightforward. > > > > > > > > > > ============================================================ > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > > > > > > > > ============================================================ > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > > ============================================================ > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > > -- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) > Mathematics > UNSW SYDNEY 2052 [email protected] > Australia http://www.hpcoders.com.au > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
