Hugh:
I am an IP attorney based in Santa Cruz, CA. Would be pleased to give
you some no-charge guidance, but not via a public forum.
Feel free to call me at 1 831 332 7127 next week.
--- Pat
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 3, 2009, at 20:13, "Hugh Trenchard" <[email protected]> wrote:
LOL, and thanks for these responses. Yes, my current arrangement is
quite loose, and being rather naive, I haven't thought it to be a
problem until it occurred to me my co-hort could be off and
marketing the sim without me knowing about it, possibly even to the
Walt Disney corp.
Lesson taken, I'd better get a clear agreement happening and/or for
him to grant me a licence to the computer code. Does anyone happen
to have a good form document precedent for such a licence?
Hugh
----- Original Message -----
From: Miles Parker
To: [email protected] ; The Friday Morning Applied
Complexity Coffee Group
Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Publishing Agreements (was "More mumbo-jumbo")
LOL. Yeah, I made it sound a lot more cut and dry then it probably
actually is. Even in software there copyright can apply to L&F.
There was a famous case in the 80s between Borland and umm.. Lotus
(?) about the design of the spreadsheet interface. And then of
course you get the fucking Walt Disney corporation involved and all
bets are off. So just don't come up with some Mickey Mouse piece of
code, ok Hugh?
On Oct 3, 2009, at 7:52 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:
WTFDIK, but, werent there some cases recently where somebody
followed the outline and sequence of topics in another person's
book and got skinned for it? Breach of ethics, only? Or did they
actually have to settle?
Nick
Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology,
Clark University ([email protected])
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
----- Original Message -----
From: Miles Parker
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Sent: 10/3/2009 8:07:39 PM
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Publishing Agreements (was "More mumbo-jumbo")
IANAL of course, but in general this situation is no different form
one where ay someone has an idea, tells it to someone else, and
that someone else writes a book about it. Ideas can't be
copyrighted but software can; and implementations of ideas can be
patented. (Yuck, though..) Am I right folks? By default the
copyright is with the actual author, i.e. in this case the
programer, unless there is some specific agreement otherwise. But
that's just the default situation; if that's not what you
want then you guys need to come up with an agreement that specifies
that you share copyright and then make sure that the code
has the appropriate notices. That should be really
straightforward.
On Oct 3, 2009, at 6:27 PM, Hugh Trenchard wrote:
Hi Robert. I subscribe to the FRIAM listserv, and have
seen your note here.
I'm wondering what the law is regarding the sharing of
intellectual property where one person establishes the general
rules for a computer simulation and then takes those rules to a
programmer who then creates a specific program based on your
rules. Do you both share in the resulting simulation, or can the
programmer argue the simulation is his/hers? I am in a situation
where I have established the general rules for a simulation, and
another fellow has created the actual sim - so am curious to know
how we should go about claiming our respective intellectual
property rights (hopefully they are shared).
Thanks and would be grateful if you could run this by Dr Winchell.
Hugh Trenchard
Victoria
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Cordingley
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Publishing Agreements (was "More mumbo-jumbo")
For those nearby, don't forget the sfComplex Meeting on
Intellectual Property is next Tuesday, October 6, 2009 2:00 pm to
4:00 pm (seehttp://sfcomplex.org/wordpress/2009/09/
intel_property#more-3032 for details). I can try to get Bruce to
answer a few questions like these if it's too far for you. Email
me your question (50 words or less) and I'll see what I can do.
Thanks,
Robert C
ERIC P. CHARLES wrote:
Interestingly,
Most journals I interact with no longer have paper options for
this sort of thing. All you do is click on a link that says "I
agree". I have wondered how enforceable any such agreement is,
and what the publisher would do if I insisted on a paper
transaction in which I could do things like write in clauses. Has
anyone had experience with these issues?
Eric
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