Oh, I'm fairly certain at least *one* friamer has had first-hand experience with swirling: http://www.urbandictionary.com/iphone/#define?term=swirly
Guaranteed to provide an unforgettable intuitive understanding of the fluid dynamics of spiraling fluids. On Jun 28, 2011 8:50 PM, "Nicholas Thompson" <[email protected]> wrote: > Good LORD NO?????!!!! > > > > What have I missed. Perhaps you had better tell me off line. > > > > N > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of Douglas Roberts > Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 10:29 PM > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] An Open Letter to Steve Guerin > > > > Nick, old friend. I"ll answer your request with another question: were you > ever the recipient of a "swirlie" during any of your formative years? I > think not; otherwise the physics of the dissapative forces of swirling water > would have become ever ingrained into your geststalt. > > Affectionately, > > -Doug > > On Jun 28, 2011 8:20 PM, "Nicholas Thompson" <[email protected]> > wrote: >> Doug, >> >> >> >> I knew that if I got no answer from anybody else, I would get one from you >> or Steve. >> >> >> >> I expected that you would accuse me of being a dissipative structure. >> Well, you didn't do THAT exactly. >> >> >> >> Actually, ever since those tornados in the spring .. and the one we had > here >> about 20 miles way . I have taken anew interest in drain swirls. The empty >> space in the middle of the swirl, LOOKS like a little tornado. Is it one? >> >> Explain your answer. In specific terms. (;-]) >> >> >> >> N >> >> >> >> >> >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf >> Of Douglas Roberts >> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 9:03 PM >> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group >> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] An Open Letter to Steve Guerin >> >> >> >> And please, couch your answer in the most general of terms. >> >> :) >> >> -Doug >> >> On Jun 28, 2011 6:59 PM, "Nicholas Thompson" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> Dear Steve Guerin, >>> >>> >>> >>> I was staring at the water swirling down the drain this evening and I >>> thought of you (};-]). It has been a very long time since we have had any >>> kind of conversation on this list about self-organizing systems. I was >>> reflecting on the vigor with which the water was rushing AROUND the basin >>> and the slowness with which it seemed to be actually going DOWN the > drain, >>> and a little voice said in my ear . I think it was your voice . that >> spiral >>> in the drain is organized to increase the dissipation of energy. But then >>> my OWN voice said, well then it isn't doing a very good job of it. >>> >>> >>> >>> So I wanted to ask you: on your account, do dissipative structures ALWAYS >>> increase the rate of dissipation? Or is it the case that when structures >>> form that obstruct dissipation, these are not dissipative. In which case, >>> what are THESE structures called and when do they form. >>> >>> >>> >>> Nick >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Nicholas S. Thompson >>> >>> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology >>> >>> Clark University >>> >>> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ >>> >>> http://www.cusf.org <http://www.cusf.org/> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >
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