These things were known as "Royal Flushes" downunder :). Urban
Dictionary doesn't seem to know the term in that sense, though...


On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 09:25:03PM -0600, Douglas Roberts wrote:
> Oh, I'm fairly certain at least *one* friamer has had first-hand experience
> with swirling: http://www.urbandictionary.com/iphone/#define?term=swirly
> 
> Guaranteed to provide an unforgettable intuitive understanding of the fluid
> dynamics of spiraling fluids.
> On Jun 28, 2011 8:50 PM, "Nicholas Thompson" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Good LORD NO?????!!!!
> >
> >
> >
> > What have I missed. Perhaps you had better tell me off line.
> >
> >
> >
> > N
> >
> >
> >
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf
> > Of Douglas Roberts
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 10:29 PM
> > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
> > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] An Open Letter to Steve Guerin
> >
> >
> >
> > Nick, old friend. I"ll answer your request with another question: were you
> > ever the recipient of a "swirlie" during any of your formative years? I
> > think not; otherwise the physics of the dissapative forces of swirling
> water
> > would have become ever ingrained into your geststalt.
> >
> > Affectionately,
> >
> > -Doug
> >
> > On Jun 28, 2011 8:20 PM, "Nicholas Thompson" <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >> Doug,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I knew that if I got no answer from anybody else, I would get one from
> you
> >> or Steve.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I expected that you would accuse me of being a dissipative structure.
> >> Well, you didn't do THAT exactly.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Actually, ever since those tornados in the spring .. and the one we had
> > here
> >> about 20 miles way . I have taken anew interest in drain swirls. The
> empty
> >> space in the middle of the swirl, LOOKS like a little tornado. Is it one?
> >>
> >> Explain your answer. In specific terms. (;-])
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> N
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> > Behalf
> >> Of Douglas Roberts
> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 9:03 PM
> >> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
> >> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] An Open Letter to Steve Guerin
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> And please, couch your answer in the most general of terms.
> >>
> >> :)
> >>
> >> -Doug
> >>
> >> On Jun 28, 2011 6:59 PM, "Nicholas Thompson" <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>> Dear Steve Guerin,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I was staring at the water swirling down the drain this evening and I
> >>> thought of you (};-]). It has been a very long time since we have had
> any
> >>> kind of conversation on this list about self-organizing systems. I was
> >>> reflecting on the vigor with which the water was rushing AROUND the
> basin
> >>> and the slowness with which it seemed to be actually going DOWN the
> > drain,
> >>> and a little voice said in my ear . I think it was your voice . that
> >> spiral
> >>> in the drain is organized to increase the dissipation of energy. But
> then
> >>> my OWN voice said, well then it isn't doing a very good job of it.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> So I wanted to ask you: on your account, do dissipative structures
> ALWAYS
> >>> increase the rate of dissipation? Or is it the case that when structures
> >>> form that obstruct dissipation, these are not dissipative. In which
> case,
> >>> what are THESE structures called and when do they form.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Nick
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Nicholas S. Thompson
> >>>
> >>> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
> >>>
> >>> Clark University
> >>>
> >>> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
> >>>
> >>> http://www.cusf.org <http://www.cusf.org/>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >

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