I'd like to ditto a part of what Nick is saying to SG: Despite the
brevity of your presentation at Notions of Time, your way of showing
and telling has stayed with me clearly. I notice turbulence, and
gradients, and the visual with the plastic bottles neck in neck or
head to head was effective enough to remain an accessible didactic
example long after your admittedly frustrating few minutes were over.
Always wanted to hear you speak and show - Teach - on the topic again.
Perhaps time for a presentation? I'd be there, and bring people.
Victoria
On Jun 28, 2011, at 8:18 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:
Doug,
I knew that if I got no answer from anybody else, I would get one
from you or Steve.
I expected that you would accuse me of being a dissipative
structure. Well, you didn’t do THAT exactly.
Actually, ever since those tornados in the spring .. and the one we
had here about 20 miles way … I have taken anew interest in drain
swirls. The empty space in the middle of the swirl, LOOKS like a
little tornado. Is it one?
Explain your answer. In specific terms. (;-])
N
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Douglas Roberts
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 9:03 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] An Open Letter to Steve Guerin
And please, couch your answer in the most general of terms.
:)
-Doug
On Jun 28, 2011 6:59 PM, "Nicholas Thompson" <[email protected]
> wrote:
> Dear Steve Guerin,
>
>
>
> I was staring at the water swirling down the drain this evening
and I
> thought of you (};-]). It has been a very long time since we have
had any
> kind of conversation on this list about self-organizing systems. I
was
> reflecting on the vigor with which the water was rushing AROUND
the basin
> and the slowness with which it seemed to be actually going DOWN
the drain,
> and a little voice said in my ear . I think it was your voice .
that spiral
> in the drain is organized to increase the dissipation of energy.
But then
> my OWN voice said, well then it isn't doing a very good job of it.
>
>
>
> So I wanted to ask you: on your account, do dissipative structures
ALWAYS
> increase the rate of dissipation? Or is it the case that when
structures
> form that obstruct dissipation, these are not dissipative. In
which case,
> what are THESE structures called and when do they form.
>
>
>
> Nick
>
>
>
>
>
> Nicholas S. Thompson
>
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
>
> Clark University
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>
> http://www.cusf.org <http://www.cusf.org/>
>
>
>
>
>
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