Marcus points out - "One way to divide things up is between
computational science and computer science, where the computational
scientists use computers as tools to integrate experiment & theory in
the natural sciences.   Computer science considers the mathematics of
computation itself."

Not to change the subject, but make an observation: It has always been
my opinion that, had software development as a profession and practice
been derived from the computational science of Ramon Lull and Leibniz
instead of the computer science of Turing and Simon (Sciences of the
Artificial) trillions of dollars would have been saved and computers
might be human affirming instead of human subordinating.

davew
 

On Wed, Jul 6, 2016, at 02:27 PM, glen ☣ wrote:
> On 07/06/2016 01:23 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> > I'm not claiming nature _is_ computational in nature.   But if it isn't we 
> > can't productively model nature at all.   There is nothing to talk about if 
> > phenomenology has no predictable regularities.  Pray to the Donald and hope 
> > for the best.
> 
> You're leaping too far.  Nature could be _near_ computational or
> structurally analogous to computation.  If that were the case, then we
> can productively model nature up to that nearness, within that ball of
> similarity.  Much like the Cheeto Jesus simulates a human.
> 
> -- 
> ☣ glen
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