In plain language discussions it is clear that "computation" is only one of
many ways to arrive at an answer.  I would suggest that anything that
strays too far from that will become hopelessly confused.  If my daughter
has homework,  and is supposed to compute the answer herself,  then asking
me is not what she is supposed to be doing,  and no amount of trying to
explain to the teacher that "all the universe is computation" not
references to the informational change-states involved will persuade the
teacher otherwise.

Is "ask dad" an algorithm?  Maybe, depends on how exactly that works. Am I
computing the answer?  Maybe,  depends on what I'm doing.  But it should be
clear that "asking dad" is not a means by which she "computes" the answer.
On Jul 6, 2016 4:55 PM, "Marcus Daniels" <[email protected]> wrote:

> "Not to change the subject, but make an observation: It has always been my
> opinion that, had software development as a profession and practice been
> derived from the computational science of Ramon Lull and Leibniz instead of
> the computer science of Turing and Simon (Sciences of the
> Artificial) trillions of dollars would have been saved and computers might
> be human affirming instead of human subordinating."
>
> The military industrial complex is much more affiliated with the former,
> it seems to me.  (That's not a for or an against.)  That problem you
> describe is one with humans, not with some particular approach to science.
>
> Marcus
>
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