Well, than that is exactly where we part company.  You're talking about the 
behavior of the testes (and the adrenals);  I am talking about the behavior of 
the individual organism.  Gets fuzzy when we talk about bees. 

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/


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From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of u?l? ?
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 3:31 PM
To: FriAM <friam@redfish.com>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] the pseudoscience of evolutionary psychology?

That's not at all the distinction I'm making (never mind "precisely"). 8^)  All 
3 of us are talking about selecting for behavior.  The difference is that I'm 
claiming "expressing and responding to testosterone" is a behavior.

On 02/22/2018 01:39 PM, Steven A Smith wrote:
> I feel mildly a failure to not be able to articulate (even recognize) 
> what the fundamental abstraction is around the difference between 
> selecting for behaviour vs something more material or more 
> (presumably) quantifiable such as Testosterone levels.   I am not sure 
> if that is precisely the distinction Glen is making here, but the 
> former seems "oh so more relevant" in spite of the latter being 
> "possibly somewhat more measureable".

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