Glen, That's extraordinarily kind of you, Glen. I would look forward to any responses you had. For most academic writers ... except the Dennetts and the Pinkers and the Dawkinses ... writing is like dropping gold pieces down an infinitely deep wishing well. You never even hear them hit the bottom, let alone get your wishes.
I share your misgivings about Harnad. To his credit, Harnad published a lot of my commentaries while disagreeing vociferously with my perspective, whenever I approached him directly. He is a dyed in the wool Cartesian who has never doubted for a minute that all experience begins with knowledge of one's own mind. There are mountains of evidence to suggest that, on the contrary, experience of one's own mind is derived from experience of the world, and is as much, or more, of an inference that our inference of the minds of others. So the entire project laid out in his abstract is, to me, patently wrong-headed. Thanks, again, Glen. Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ -----Original Message----- From: Friam [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of u?l? ? Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 1:29 PM To: FriAM <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] do animals psychologize? I'm not sure I've read all 3. I will, though. I *tried* to read this: Animal Sentience: The other-minds problem https://animalstudiesrepository.org/animsent/vol1/iss1/1/ And I've read some of Harnad's other work and came away impressed. But his characterization of the "hard problem" seems fundamentally *off* to me. But who knows. He's smarter than I am. In any case, I found this response interesting: Nonhuman mind-reading ability https://animalstudiesrepository.org/animsent/vol1/iss1/2/ On 09/13/2018 06:34 PM, Nick Thompson wrote: > Glen has already read and commented on this stuff, a kindness for > which I am eternally grateful If you are interested in this topic, I would > love to hear from more of you. -- ☣ uǝlƃ ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove
