So ... Rosen's openness to material flow, closure to operational flow, allows *both* endo- and exothermic sub-systems. But his (M,R)-systems focus on maintaining organization using energy-material harvested from the gradient, ignoring sub-systems that produce energy-material?
On 10/24/18 9:20 AM, Prof David West wrote: > I am pretty sure that the questions you pose, and the ideas of people > like Rosen, arise from a failure to recognize the qualitative difference > among structures and therefore miss the essence of "organization." > This, in turn is largely attributable to the fact that we enjoy a highly > developed "science" of Entropy and Entropic Structuralism (Physics, > Chemistry, Astronomy, etc.) but almost no equivalent science of > Anentropy. Recombinant DNA and CRISPR are at the level of alchemy in > this regard. Sociology, Anthropology, Psychology, Ecology, etc. are, at > best, aspiring to alchemy. > pretentiously yours, -- ☣ uǝlƃ ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove