I like the idea of a non-sequential machine, or perhaps, a being, whose 
operation is NOT determined by knowing how its component parts function. I 
don’t see how to go about constructing such a thing, unless I assume that there 
are laws of physics which remain undiscovered. So for now, I will settle on 
trying to describe a ``machine’’ which is not a sequential machine. I think 
that Rosen is right in saying that having a parallel machine (in which various 
operations happen simultaneously) will not do the trick because given any 
parallel machine one can define a sequential machine that functions in the same 
way. One might make a machine in which the outputs only happen with a certain 
specified probability, but I don’t think that is different enough. So I 
rephrase the problem as describing an entity that receives inputs and produces 
outputs that is cannot be duplicated (or reasonably modeled) by a probabilistic 
sequential machine (one in which the outputs happen with a specified 
probability). I thought of starting with a sequential machine, which has rules 
for how to react to inputs when in a given state. But now let’s suppose that 
the rules may change. The entity is capable of learning new rules. This seems 
more biological –the entity can reprogram itself. But I find that naive ways of 
reprograming can probably be duplicated by a sequential machine. For example, 
if the machine reprograms when dissatisfied with previous performance, then 
there is a new state, of being dissatisfied, and the reprograming activity can, 
it seems, be re-expressed as more sophisticated rules for producing an output.

--John
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Yes, but not with multiple signatories.  Sorry.

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On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 11:45 AM Nick Thompson 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Thanks, Tom,



Still trying to figure out logistics.  I have written the NM-ican to find out 
how to submit a letter from many signers, but got no response.  Do you have any 
experience with this?



Nick



Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/



From: Friam 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf 
Of Tom Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 11:14 AM
To: Friam@redfish. com <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Open Letter, draft #2



I will sign on, Nick.

Tom Johnson, Professor Emeritus, San Francisco State University


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Institute for Analytic Journalism   --     Santa Fe, NM USA
505.577.6482(c)                                    505.473.9646(h)
NM Foundation for Open Government<http://nmfog.org>
Check out It's The People's 
Data<https://www.facebook.com/pages/Its-The-Peoples-Data/1599854626919671>

http://www.jtjohnson.com<http://www.jtjohnson.com/>                   
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
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On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 6:09 PM Nick Thompson 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hi, all,



Here is a new draft of the open letter, pared down to meet the New Mexican’s 
requirements.  I have a few signatories, would love some more.  I will bring 
the letter with me to our service on Friday.  Even if you don’t plan to sign, 
please feel free to point out typos and other infelicities.



Nick



To the New Mexican

We are industrial researchers and retired college professors, living in Santa 
Fe.  We urge all Santa Feans to vote, but particularly young voters and their 
parents.  Institutions of learning and their students are under stress.    
Every day, we meet young people as dedicated to learning as our best research 
students in the 70’s and 80’s, yet are working as cashiers, ride hail drivers, 
waiters and waitresses.  Under present conditions, these talented young people 
cannot afford to go to university and, without that training, will never take 
up the leadership positions their talent should make possible.  The nation will 
need these students as our generation retires from institutes, government 
laboratories, colleges, and universities.  Please take time to vote and to tell 
your representatives to support education at every level.  The future safety 
and prosperity of our nation depends on it.



Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/



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