Frank, Jon, John, etc.,
I wish you guys would look at Rosen. I would be happy to loan you my copy. In Chapter 4, The Concept of State, he is arguing that assumptions deep in Newtonian Mechanics preclude or constrain a discussion of biological organization (let alone, a psychological one) leading to a fallacious sense of reduceability. His argument is mathematical, and involves assumptions built into what he calls Newtonian “chronicles”, mathematical expressions that have time of occurrence on the x axis and position, or velocity, or acceleration, or … or etc. on the Y. Something about the manner in which Newton sets this all up is claimed to obscure organizational properties of systems. Somehow, the problem of organization is made to disappear. Best I can do. Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University <http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2018 5:24 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Open Letter, draft #2 Well, I'm not a sequential machine although my wife has her doubts. Thanks for the algebraic geometry suggestions. Jon Zingale and I will try to master the subject. Others may join us on Saturday mornings if they wish. Frank ----------------------------------- Frank Wimberly My memoir: https://wacsequentisl mww.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly <http://mww.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly> My scientific publications: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2 Phone (505) 670-9918 On Sat, Oct 27, 2018, 5:16 PM John Kennison <jkenni...@clarku.edu <mailto:jkenni...@clarku.edu> > wrote: Hi Frank, I didn't realize it was supposed to be a joke --it seemed like a relevant example. I'm not an algebraic geometer but: . . . there is a historical survey in https://www.ime.usp.br/~pleite/pub/artigos/abhyankar/abhyankar.pdf <https://www.ime.usp.br/~pleite/pub/artigos/abhyankar/abhyankar.pdf> Historical Ramblings in Algebraic Geometry and Related Algebra www.ime.usp.br <http://www.ime.usp.br> Historical Ramblings in Algebraic Geometry and Related Algebra Author(s): Shreeram S. Abhyankar Source: The American Mathematical Monthly, Vol. 83, No. 6 (Jun. - Jul ... If you read that you can tell if you like Ahbyankar's style. He wrote a more thorough survey in 295 pages called "Algebraic Geometry for Scientists and Engineers'' (including computer scientists. --John _____ From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com <mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com> > on behalf of Frank Wimberly <wimber...@gmail.com <mailto:wimber...@gmail.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2018 5:53:53 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Open Letter, draft #2 Sorry, John. It was a weak attempt to be humorous. Also, I mistyped. I meant "algebraic geometry" when I was asking for a book recommendation. Frank ----------------------------------- Frank Wimberly My memoir: https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly My scientific publications: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2 Phone (505) 670-9918 On Sat, Oct 27, 2018, 12:56 PM Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com <mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com> > wrote: John writes: “Is there something that animals, or more particularly humans, can do which we can prove cannot be duplicated by a sequential machine?” A sequential computer program could simply be a loop that sampled random numbers and indexed into the address space of the computer program itself (not its memory). One could make a specialized computer using a FPGA that even had an instruction to do that random dispatching. To counter the arguments of Penrose, one could do the same using quantum states. https://www.springer.com/us/book/9781402078941 There are all kinds of physical processes that are simulated on classical supercomputers, of course. Marcus ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove
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